teacher refused a pupil a toilet visit

pigpen

duchy wrote: »

Maybe it was his girlfriend who was pregnant at 16 -it was in a post last week from you -I can't be bothered looking for it right now as just off to work-or maybe that was a different child as you said one child in his teens and then another one later on when he WAS 22. Maybe you've forgotten about the post ?

How old was your daughter when she was an upchucking pregnant student ? Colleges tendn to only call the younger students at home to chase attendance and not the "mature "students so it's hardly surprising the poster assumed she was a teen.

His previous gf was pg at 15 but both she and her baby are part of our family and much loved.. they don't have to be a blood relation for you to love them.

Colleges call all students if their attendance drops to a certain level whatever their age, usually about 85%.. they need to know whether to bin their stuff or expect them back or offer additional support.

College called OH to see why he was absent when he was off for 2 days and he is nearly 35 and has 98% attendance! It isn't something they do for just younger students. I acknowledge many people do not have recent experience of college procedures so could be influenced by the outdated pratices they encountered.

missbiggles1

barbarawright wrote: »

And how do you train yourself during a heavy period? Wear a nappy? Or should all schoolgirls go on the pill so they don't need to waste valuable minutes during the school day?

I used to have heavy periods when I was young but, if you need to change protection that often it's likely to be a medical problem.

mumps

pigpen wrote: »

you said you 'got up with a tummy upset today'.. in the context of my reply, I was correct.. As a parent you wouldnt send a child to school when they got up with an upset tum unless you were a nitwit If my child was taken ill at school and a teacher dismissed their illness there would be hell to pay! I think most have enough experience to differentiate between illness/needing to use the toilet. A simple stomach bug could land some children in hospital.

and you are very naughty going without brekkie!!

The fact was I got up with a stomach upset but it could come on any time.

I had breakfast at work, meant I missed the worst of the traffic and got a parking place and had my tea/coffee and toast and a little relax before the hectic workday started. Some days it was a fresh, warm pain au chocolat, if they were being taken out of the oven as I walked past the bakers I could hardly say no, could I. It worked for me, might not for others. Now I am retired breakfast is always at home and relaxed, no need to rush out the door any more but it is ages since I had a pain au chocolat warm from the bakers

mumps

Jojo_the_Tightfisted wrote: »

It was funny seeing their faces when the new rule was introduced - and the way that so many suddenly found their pelvic floor muscles started working again, male and female.

Some of the girls more likely to be the ones who were doing it deliberately to truant the lessons tried embarrassing male teachers into allowing them to leave unescorted by going into graphic descriptions of menstruation - they were shocked the teachers didn't bat an eyelid and simply contacted on call in exactly the same way they would for any other kid. And, as an aside, where a girl is struggling with pain/heaviness, there's a good chance over the course of the week or so they make visits that it's noticed - a discreet 'still not feeling very well?' when everybody else is in class can lead to a 'it might be worth you asking Mum if she could take you to the doctor's, as they might be able to help' - or for anybody who might have gastro or urinary issues and not mentioned it at home.

The problem with this sort of thing is teachers don't always get it right. I can recall asking to leave a games lesson. I was about 13 and it was hockey. Teacher said no. I was finally allowed to leave when the blood running down my legs made everyone else feel a bit uncomfortable. It also seemed to cause some interest with the boys playing rugby on a nearby pitch.

I don't imagine the cleanrers were particularly thrilled about the trail of blood left through the school either.

Of course the embarrassment and humiliation I felt was probably worth it in the interests of maintaining discipline. Fifty years ago and it still bothers me.

heuchera

That's horrible, mumps I would like to hope that these days that would have resulted in a formal complaint being made against that member of staff.


I reckon teachers who refuse to let the child go to the toilet should be made to clean up the puke/whatever else _pale_ which results from being disallowed a prompt visit to the lavatory!

gayleygoo

My period turned up rather unexpectedly one day during maths class. I asked to go to the toilet and was refused permission, so I sat there, hoping it wouldn't be too messy.... I was way too embarrassed to tell the male teacher why I needed to go, so I spent the rest of the lesson nearly in tears, and had to wait until everyone else left the class so I could stand up and clean my chair and my legs with tissues. The teacher then noticed what happened and apologised and ran off to find a female teacher to help get me sorted out!

He let us all go use the loo whenever we asked after that.

barbarawright

missbiggles1 wrote: »

I used to have heavy periods when I was young but, if you need to change protection that often it's likely to be a medical problem.

What's 'that often'? Some people seemed to be claiming that one could train oneself not to need the loo all day. Other seemed to think it OK for children not to be allowed to use a loo between classes. Children aren't necessarily used to managing these things and having access to a loo every hour or so doesn't exactly seem unreasonable

mumps

heuchera wrote: »

That's horrible, mumps I would like to hope that these days that would have resulted in a formal complaint being made against that member of staff.


I reckon teachers who refuse to let the child go to the toilet should be made to clean up the puke/whatever else _pale_ which results from being disallowed a prompt visit to the lavatory!

I don't think I even told my mother. I think I was 13 and my father died when I was 13 so I probably thought she had enough going on. It was pretty horrible but I did have the satisfaction of seeing the look of horror on her face when she realised what was going on.

DevilsAdvocate1

In my school the toilets were locked before school and during lessons. Often you couldn't go during break time as we only had 15 minutes in the morning (no break on an afternoon).

After nearly wetting myself twice, I stopped drinking during the day. Would not even have a drink at breakfast. Sometimes I was so thirsty I struggled to concentrate. But I was terrified of wetting myself.

Sometimes you need to go. It might be rare, but it does happen. I also had the period thing happen a couple of times. I used to get the runs just before my period started. Not good.

catkins

Peter333 wrote: »

They have a break every 90 minutes to 2 hours. Surely they can wait THAT long?!

Try going to the cinema and see how many times some people have to go in and out (presumably to the loo). I don't know how some of them manage to follow the plot.


Of course, some people have small or overactive bladders but I can't believe so many people do. Cinemas, theatres, concerts etc people in and out practically non stop. I assume none of them have a job where they can't pop to the loo every half hour such as bus driver