Drink driving

RichardD1970

sacsquacco wrote: »

Doctors don`give any warnings but there are the usual disclaimers on the information leaflet.Codeine phosphate is nt one of the stronger painkillers around being prescribed for low to moderate pain relief. Two of the 30 gms will knock the first timer user on his/her back worse than 4 pints. IMO we all at far greater risk on UK roads from stubborn ancient old drivers careering around the streets, usually at 20mph , all on various painkillers for arthritus , anti cancer, prostate etc etc and with unbelievably bad eyesight.
I m a working OAP myself so I m not an ageist but a realist. My advice is to stay clear of Peugeot s.
HG I meant 2x 30 mgs which =60mgs..bloody hell 120 mgs will have you piling it up on the first bend !

Still fail to see your point??

Yes people shouldn't drive whilst under the influence of certain drugs (whether prescribed or not), or whilst not being able to see properly.

Still doesn't make it OK to drink and drive, especially to a level where you receive a longer than normal ban (so not talking about the odd pint or two that tips you just over the edge).

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who s defending drink drivers !! where did that one come from, I m simply pointing out a much bigger danger for the self righteous to get stuck into . Every motorist is in more danger IMO from the things I ve pointed out detailing the effects of a very common painkiller, codeine, which is far worse than one or two pints.
Co Codamol has a reduced level of codeine, 15 mgs/500mgs paracetamol each tablet and therefore not such a fuzz maker as neat codeine silversurfer. 60mg of codeine phosphate certainly had a bad effect on me and I would nt have dreamed of driving . I personally dont have any alcohol when driving, even one pint.

RichardD1970

sacsquacco wrote: »

who s defending drink drivers !! where did that one come from, I m simply pointing out a much bigger danger for the self righteous to get stuck into . Every motorist is in more danger IMO from the things I ve pointed out detailing the effects of a very common painkiller, codeine, which is far worse than one or two pints.
Co Codamol has a reduced level of codeine, 15 mgs/500mgs paracetamol each tablet and therefore not such a fuzz maker as neat codeine silversurfer

But this thread [STRIKE]is[/STRIKE] was about DRINK DRIVING!

I would rather be hit by your OAP careering around at 20mph than by some lad who has had 3 or 4 pints and thinks he's the new Stig.

Call me self righteous if you like. I don't drink and drive EVER, I'm not on any drugs and I have my eyes tested every to years as recommended by my optician.

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Well done Richard1970 , personally I dont want to be hit by either of them, and heres a tip from someone who s been there with vision..don t wait for some opticians advice about two yearly visits.My vision went down pretty swiftly two weeks after a diabetic eye camera check and an opticians visit the month previously with a failing cataract at only age 56. Surprising how fast it can deteriate and was noticeble mostly at night..just a word of warning. Vision can go down so quickly and not be noticed. As you get older I think an annual check is better.
This thread is about drug driving of which alcohol is a drug just like codeine etc

Aretnap

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Last time I looked codeine phosphate was an opiate. Enough in the blood stream would give a positive on a drug test

It would. However the new law provides a defence in that case: it is not an offence to drive with a level of codeine (or morphine, or certain other prescription/OTC drugs) which is over the limit, provided you were supplied the drug legally to treat a medical problem and provided you took it in accordance with the instructions given by your doctor/pharmacist/the leaflet with the packet.

It remains an offence to drive while unfit regardless of how and why you took the drugs - but that's a separate offence and to convict you of it the police would have to prove that your ability to drive was actually impaired, not just that the level in your bloodstream was above a certain level.

robbies_gal

sacsquacco wrote: »

Christ ! all these holier than thou casting the first stone ! you can lose your licence on a pint of beer nowadays ! and before you lot start up again in condemnation I bet half of you are driving on co- codamol or prescription drugs which are a damn sight worse than a pint or two. The same thing go s for all you people driving with out of focus eyes because you re too tight/vain to get new glasses every year.

youre missing the point anyway this poster has been on before admitting he took the rap for his drunk granddaughter i dont know about you but that make it a whole different story

[Deleted User]

robbies_gal wrote: »

youre missing the point anyway this poster has been on before admitting he took the rap for his drunk granddaughter i dont know about you but that make it a whole different story

Strikes me that this Motoring section is heaving with posters under multiple usernames.Its time the moderators got to grips at source somehow to stop all these fantasists.

Mercdriver

Aretnap wrote: »

It would. However the new law provides a defence in that case: it is not an offence to drive with a level of codeine (or morphine, or certain other prescription/OTC drugs) which is over the limit, provided you were supplied the drug legally to treat a medical problem and provided you took it in accordance with the instructions given by your doctor/pharmacist/the leaflet with the packet.

It remains an offence to drive while unfit regardless of how and why you took the drugs - but that's a separate offence and to convict you of it the police would have to prove that your ability to drive was actually impaired, not just that the level in your bloodstream was above a certain level.

That's ok then if someone knocks down someone when under medication, that's alright.

Both are deplorable, but from the tone on this board at times, you'd think people posting here like this had never made a mistake in their lives...

BeenThroughItAll

sacsquacco wrote: »

Strikes me that this Motoring section is heaving with posters under multiple usernames.Its time the moderators got to grips at source somehow to stop all these fantasists.

Apart from the fact that, in this case, the OP posted under the same user ID, that's the first comment you've made in this thread which I support.

BeenThroughItAll

Mercdriver wrote: »

That's ok then if someone knocks down someone when under medication, that's alright.

Both are deplorable, but from the tone on this board at times, you'd think people posting here like this had never made a mistake in their lives...

Sorry, but I fail to understand how one can accidentally drink one or more alcoholic beverages and then drive a car.


Drinking and driving isn't a mistake, or an accident. It's a deliberate, calculated act, in which the driver accepts the risk that they may be a) over the limit, b) caught, and c) prosecuted.