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The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

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  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    Given that Scotland is given more and spends more per head there should be a similar proportional gap in performance - there isn't.

    So England is clearly doing more with less whilst Scotland does almost the same with more.

    Your talking the talk, please show it so that it is clear.

    Please demonstrate the different spend per head.

    I do recall seeing a very slight difference, but lets delve into the actuals and see what the difference is in spend per head.
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    No idea, it's irrelevant on the topic of Scottish independence.

    On the contrary, we are currently part of the UK, so the impact on the UK is worthy of consideration
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • mollycat
    mollycat Posts: 1,475 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Cluster posting absolute rubbish.

    Great way to kill a thread, (or argument :))
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    mollycat wrote: »
    Cluster posting absolute rubbish.

    Great way to kill a thread, (or argument :))

    Thanks for your valuable contribution
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    Given that Scotland is given more and spends more per head there should be a similar proportional gap in performance - there isn't.

    So England is clearly doing more with less whilst Scotland does almost the same with more.

    I've found some info.
    In 2014/15 Scotland NHS spend per head was £2,160, down from £2,200 in 12/13
    In 2014/15 England NHS spend per head was £2,057, up from £1,985 in 2012/13

    Of course, economies of scale will play a significant impact into efficiency opportunities

    [IMG][/img]2eod0ll.png

    So Scotland has reduced spending by 1.82%, whilst England has increased spending by 3.63%

    Going back to my graph, Scotland is showing as an improving statistic, despite Austerity cuts, whilst England has shown a declining statistic, despite an increase in spending
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    So please clarify, why do you think that England is performing better than Scotland?
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • Thanks for your valuable contribution
    More valuable that yours which are in very large part irrelevant waffle and clearly obfuscation. ;)

    As an example:
    Your talking the talk, please show it so that it is clear.
    It has BEEN shown repeatedly over these past few pages.
    Why do you need your hand holding to see what you are determined not to see?

    Please demonstrate the different spend per head.
    Again this has been covered at length.
    Instead of pointless questions (and thus wasting space) try looking?


    I do recall seeing a very slight difference, but lets delve into the actuals and see what the difference is in spend per head.
    We have in the past in this thread.
    Repeatedly in fact.
    Look for yourself instead of asking others to do it for you.
    Tell you what - just for a change YOU provide figures & we will see whether or not we agree with you. ;)
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    More valuable that yours which are in very large part irrelevant waffle and clearly obfuscation. ;)

    As an example:

    Tell you what - just for a change YOU provide figures & we will see whether or not we agree with you.

    Thanks for your valuable contribution.

    I have provided some facts and figures above, please feel free to comment
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
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    So please clarify, why do you think that England is performing better than Scotland?

    Because you are using out of date data, some of which is confined to one month.
    October to November 2015 - really?
    :rotfl:
    Okay well THAT shows 94.9% of Scots seen within four hours.
    Last month (April 2017) 92.5%
    Is that an increase or a decrease, ISTL?
    http://files.heraldscotland.com/news/15245646.A_E_departments_miss_waiting_times_target/

    And it's not universal across Scotland either, is it?
    NHS figures reveal a quarter of patients at Glasgow's Queen Elizabeth University Hospital had to wait more than four hours.
    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/super-hospital-records-worst-ever-10386469
  • Thanks for your valuable contribution.

    I have provided some facts and figures above, please feel free to comment

    I did.
    Should we now await a further series of irrelevant posts in reply?
    ;)
  • Also this from Fullfact:
    There are more attendances at A&E—there were about 21.4 million attendances to all A&Es in England in 2010/11, compared to roughly 22.9 million in 2015/16. So more people—about 240,00 more—were seen within four hours in 2015/16 than in 2010/11.
    https://fullfact.org/health/a-e-waiting-times-pmqs/
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