The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

mollycat

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Maybe, maybe not.
There is a growing consensus that the majority would prefer to be independent in Europe rather than Conservative led in the UK

Permanently independent in Europe, (? to our detriment), but only temporarily Conservative led in the UK.

Don't you see the skewed thinking here?

A_Pict_In_A_Past_Life

All these posts!
Is someone going into meltdown and what will they be like in June?

mrginge

mollycat wrote: »

Permanently independent in Europe, (? to our detriment), but only temporarily Conservative led in the UK.

Don't you see the skewed thinking here?

this is the tories who were forced into coalition, then scraped a small majority and are only now likely to get a big majority due to the garbage quality of the opposition.

So the lie that it's the tories for ever is just that. A big massive pile of turd.

In fact, if the snp weren't so objectionable and played a proper role in the UK, then they could well find that English voters weren't so scared of them being part of a future coalition with a more electable labour.

If anyone's helping to keep the tories in power it's shakey and her merry band.

Enterprise_1701C

mrginge wrote: »

this is the tories who were forced into coalition, then scraped a small majority and are only now likely to get a big majority due to the garbage quality of the opposition.

So the lie that it's the tories for ever is just that. A big massive pile of turd.

In fact, if the snp weren't so objectionable and played a proper role in the UK, then they could well find that English voters weren't so scared of them being part of a future coalition with a more electable labour.

If anyone's helping to keep the tories in power it's shakey and her merry band.

That is her intention - paint the rest of the UK as the big bad bogeyman so as to make independence look palatable, after all if the UK was made to look as wonderful as it is in Scotland she would not be able to get all the lemmings to leap off the cliff to follow her would she.

If she actually was helpful and constructive and actually tried to be helpful to the rest of the UK she would not achieve her dream of being president of the eu.

IveSeenTheLight

mollycat wrote: »

Permanently independent in Europe, (? to our detriment), but only temporarily Conservative led in the UK.

Don't you see the skewed thinking here?

I do see the skewed thinking.
You believe independence will Permanently be to our detriment.

What I see is that depsite decades of prosperity in Scotland, we have not positioned ourselves well for moving forward.
We are seeing our GDP decline as part of a UK which is showing increased GDP.

We are not doing relatively well in the union.

Far better for us to be self determined, cut the strings and allow us the opportunity to turn that around and progressively improve our economy.

Being kept holding onto the coattails of England or in their shadows is not how we want to move forward.

Time to ditch the kiddie reins, become self reliant and responsible for our own destiny

TrickyTree83

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

I do see the skewed thinking.
You believe independence will Permanently be to our detriment.

What I see is that depsite decades of prosperity in Scotland, we have not positioned ourselves well for moving forward.
We are seeing our GDP decline as part of a UK which is showing increased GDP.

We are not doing relatively well in the union.

Far better for us to be self determined, cut the strings and allow us the opportunity to turn that around and progressively improve our economy.

Being kept holding onto the coattails of England or in their shadows is not how we want to move forward.

Time to ditch the kiddie reins, become self reliant and responsible for our own destiny

You're not doing well since you voted in the SNP.

:T

Up until the SNP got hold of the economy and started threatening independence referenda you were fine. Your problems are of your own making as demonstrated by GDP growth elsewhere in the UK whilst it declines in Scotland.

No one to blame but yourselves. No one.

IveSeenTheLight

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

You're not doing well since you voted in the SNP.

:T

Up until the SNP got hold of the economy and started threatening independence referenda you were fine. Your problems are of your own making as demonstrated by GDP growth elsewhere in the UK whilst it declines in Scotland.

Very simplistic of you and totally dismisses how the Scottish GDP was largely bolstered by a strong oil industry.

The fall of the barrel of oil was not of the SNP making.

The failures were that the governments did not plan fully for the future and alternative economies.

In some sense, it's a bit like the coal industry, does well in the bouyant years, but no government thought into post production years.

Westminster happy to take the revenue, but lacking in reinvestment for diversification.

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

No one to blame but yourselves. No one.

I'm happy to have that full responsibility.
Just give it to us and we will crack on.

IveSeenTheLight

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Still, not long until we get an indication of how many seats the SNP will lose.
:T

We saw earlier a sketch of Theresa May dreaming of a coronation




Seems now Ruth Davidson wants to be the Queen of Scots

TrickyTree83

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Very simplistic of you and totally dismisses how the Scottish GDP was largely bolstered by a strong oil industry.

The fall of the barrel of oil was not of the SNP making.

The failures were that the governments did not plan fully for the future and alternative economies.

In some sense, it's a bit like the coal industry, does well in the bouyant years, but no government thought into post production years.

Westminster happy to take the revenue, but lacking in reinvestment for diversification.



I'm happy to have that full responsibility.
Just give it to us and we will crack on.

You don't half talk rubbish.

When the oil price fell, tell me, go look for it, and see if Scottish GDP was rising or not. Then have a look at when the SNP was given more power and when they started harping on about another referendum. What happened to Scottish GDP then?

No one to blame but yourselves for the mess you find yourself in now. You might like to blame others such as Westminster but it's simply not true. The idiots amongst you who vote the for SNP are only interested in one thing, independence, at the expense of the here and now and the short and medium term future of Scotland. Destitution will be the order of the day. High unemployment, buckling welfare, health and education. I suppose you can always ask the Greeks how they dug themselves out of a ~10% deficit.

AnotherJoe

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Be a progressive, successful independent country, able to stand on our own.

David Cameron agreed

Agreed, it could, but the SNP wants it to be a vassal state of the EU which doesn't equate in any way with "independent" or "standing on its own". The very opposite in fact.