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The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

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  • Shakethedisease
    Shakethedisease Posts: 7,006 Forumite
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    edited 17 June 2016 at 4:19PM
    Generali wrote: »
    It's an interesting idea but misses the central point: neither Scots nor English want to leave the United Kingdom.
    .... a UK which is still in the EU you mean of course ? A UK which isn't in the EU is an entirely different prospect.

    Even for arch unionists like 'Rivers of Blood in the Thames' Massie.
    I don’t want it to happen. I hope that there will be a majority next week for keeping the U.K. in the European Union. But if there isn’t, then it’s a whole different ball game. I’m Scottish, British, European. I would like to remain all three. But a Brexit Britain, the Britain of Johnson and Farage, has no attraction for me. It would be a meaner, nastier place, and I would want no part of it.

    I have never cared for the SNP—the Scottish National Party—but then I care even less for pretty well everything about the Brexiteers. So if it comes to the point—and I hope it won’t—I will be strongly tempted to vote for being Scottish and European, and goodbye to a Britain that had been rebranded as Little England.
    http://takimag.com/article/a_vote_to_remain_allan_massie?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed#axzz4BpfUgZBf
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • Thrugelmir
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    .string. wrote: »
    That seems a variant of the remark of the type "There's a terrible storm, Europe is isolated"!

    Brexit means an isolated UK, not an isolated Europe.

    Isolated from what? The world has never been better interconnected. Communications, travel, shipping freight, finance etc.

    The EU needs UK markets for exports. Germany in particular for engineered goods, chemicals etc. France for agricultural products.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    Looks like I'm not the only one then.

    Quite interesting that we come at it from two different political philosophies but end up in the same place anyway.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Generali
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    Looks like I'm not the only one then.

    Quite interesting that we come at it from two different political philosophies but end up in the same place anyway.

    I doubt that Northern Ireland would hang about for long if Scotland voted to leave the UK but remain in the EU.
  • .string.
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    @Thrugelmir - isolated from Europe and inward cooking with horizons reduced and gradually coming to terms with the realisation that Brits are not as clever as they thought they were.
    Union, not Disunion

    I have a Right Wing and a Left Wing.
    It's the only way to fly straight.
  • Thrugelmir
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    .string. wrote: »
    @Thrugelmir - isolated from Europe and inward cooking with horizons reduced and gradually coming to terms with the realisation that Brits are not as clever as they thought they were.

    You appear to suffer from an Island mentality. Europe is far from being a unified entity.

    One can make any number of observations about different cultures. :)
  • .string. wrote: »
    @Thrugelmir - isolated from Europe and inward cooking with horizons reduced and gradually coming to terms with the realisation that Brits are not as clever as they thought they were.

    Speak for yourself.....:)

    WR
  • elantan
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    It's been some week on the EU ref front this week... so many people were quick to go on and on about indy ref and behaviour ... kinda pales into insignificance now

    Hatred is a horrible thing
  • .string.
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    The similarities between the Indy ref and the eu ref are plain to see. Jingoistic claims of nationalistic capabilities versus dire warning of separatism, dubbed Project Fear. In the case of the Indy ref the warnings turned out to be true and Scotland was saved from SNP folly. In the case of the eu ref, ... Well that remains to be seen.
    Union, not Disunion

    I have a Right Wing and a Left Wing.
    It's the only way to fly straight.
  • elantan
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    In your opinion
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