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The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.
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Spain says naw.. to a veto.Spain has said it would not veto an attempt by an independent Scotland to join the EU, in a boost to Nicola Sturgeon’s campaign for a second independence referendum and the clearest sign yet that Brexit has softened Madrid’s longstanding opposition.
Alfonso Dastis, the Spanish foreign minister, made it clear that the government would not block an independent Scotland’s EU hopes, although he stressed that Madrid would not welcome the disintegration of the UK.
But asked directly whether Spain would veto an independent Scotland joining the EU, Dastis said: “No, we wouldn’t.”
Madrid is keen not to fuel Catalonia’s desire for independence. “We don’t want it [Scottish independence] to happen,” he said. “But if it happens legally and constitutionally, we would not block it.
Most of the article is negative padding round the main story. But we get the jist.It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?0 -
Shakethedisease wrote: »Spain says naw.. to a veto.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/02/spain-drops-plan-to-impose-veto-if-scotland-tries-to-join-eu
Most of the article is negative padding round the main story. But we get the jist.
Legally and constitutionally, that's a problem for your version of "we'll hold it when we want it", which everyone knows is rubbish. Just like when you said you could inherit the UK EU membership.0 -
Well that's a pretty definitive answer from Spain's foreign minister.
Spain will not veto an iScotland joining the EU.
Despite endless proclamations from some on here that they would....“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Well that's a pretty definitive answer from Spain's foreign minister.
Spain will not veto an iScotland joining the EU.
Despite endless proclamations from some on here that they would....
Reuters:.......as a result, Madrid has long been seen as an obstacle to an independent Scotland joining the EU after Brexit. But its foreign minister, Alfonso Dastis, threw that in doubt on Sunday.
"Initially, I don't think we would block it," he said in an interview published in El Pais.
...however, he added Scotland would have to leave the EU with Britain, and "the rest we will see".If I don't reply to your post,
you're probably on my ignore list.0 -
Not exactly a cast iron guarantee is it.
Direct question - direct answer.But asked directly whether Spain would veto an independent Scotland joining the EU, Dastis said: “No, we wouldn’t.”“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-39471817
Good to know Scotland's affairs are in such good order that Nicola has time for a 5 day jaunt to the US.
Apparently she's giving a speech on 'Scotland's Place in the World'
This is important stuff.If I don't reply to your post,
you're probably on my ignore list.0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Direct question - direct answer.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/02/spain-drops-plan-to-impose-veto-if-scotland-tries-to-join-eu
Also from your link, the piece directly before your quote:... he stressed that Madrid would not welcome the disintegration of the UK.
He also said Edinburgh would have to apply for membership, a process fraught with uncertainty that is likely to take several years.0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Direct question - direct answer.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/02/spain-drops-plan-to-impose-veto-if-scotland-tries-to-join-eu
You believe left-wing anti-tory elitist Guardian.
I'll stick with the integrity of Reuters.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-scotland-idUKKBN17409FIf I don't reply to your post,
you're probably on my ignore list.0 -
Disaster for Sturgeon as Spain BACKS May over plans to block Scottish independence vote
Well who would have thought that?:):shocked::)
Fake news or fact - let's wait and see if others support the report.
Oops - here we go - I shan't try to keep up with reports as they come in.Shakethedisease wrote: »Must we really have to go over and over the same Express and Telegraph articles that they've been printing for the last 6 years string ? *loses will to live*
<--- hint, this fella isn't Spain. Learn to read past the headlines ? Plus the Express always crashes my web browser.
Looks like you called it right shake!
No wonder Tricky is floundering0 -
You believe left-wing anti-tory elitist Guardian.
I'll stick with the integrity of Reuters.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-scotland-idUKKBN17409F
It's quite hard to read past the first paragraph...Spain, at loggerheads with Britain over Gibraltar, appears to be easing its opposition to an independent Scotland in the European Union, saying it would not block such a move at least initially.
Thanks for the conformation by your trusted source :beer:0
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