The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

TrickyTree83

For those who were struggling to access the cached version.

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davomcdave

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/hilarious-missing-poster-calls-nicola-10073648

HTH.

sss555s

Shakethedisease wrote: »

These figures seem fantastical compared to the population of England. Long past time for a GERE's ? Surely there's something very wrong somewhere.

GERS is BS and no one is countering as it's blindingly obvious.

This quotes it well though it's just scratching the surface...

We are giving GERS far too much credibility. It says in the executive summary it relates to Scotland "under the current constitutional framework". NOT independence. There is only a deficit because of the £68 billion charged against Scotland over £28 billion relates to "other uk expenditure". Within that number we get charged £3 billion for defence but only £1.3 billion is spent in Scotland, If the rest are as skewed we don't have a deficit at all. Then there's the issue of Scotland's books getting charged a share of thousands of civil servants and their costs whilst England's books get the tax and nics revenue, the vat, and the spend. As to the SG providing other numbers I understand the civil servants can only use numbers that have gone through the approved treasury way of doing things. And given the treasury is up there when it comes to taking "partisan" decisions there's not much of chance of the truth

antrobus

sss555s wrote: »

GERS is BS and no one is countering as it's blindingly obvious.

This quotes it well though it's just scratching the surface...

GERS is a National Statistic.

Your unattributed quote appears to come from a comment posted in response to an article posted here by an economist named Margaret Cuthbert.
https://www.commonspace.scot/articles/9162/margaret-cuthbert-what-gers-and-brexit-reports-tell-us-about-scotlands-economy

Curiously enough, the article contains the following statement;

It is becoming a trademark of Scottish Government reports that important statements are not backed up by relevant data or by references to where relevant data can be found.

I'd have thought that was more relevant, than some 'comment'. I'd call that scraping the barrel.:)

beecher2

Scottish Attitudes 2016 is worth a look. I'm sure people will pick the bits they find reinforces their existing views, but I always just find them a good read with broad stats showing what people in Scotland think, without seeing them manipulated to fit in with media or political agenda. Love being able to track trends too, fantastic for Economic historians like me


http://www.gov.scot/Resource/0051/00515598.pdf

ash28

sss555s wrote: »

GERS is BS and no one is countering as it's blindingly obvious.

This quotes it well though it's just scratching the surface...

The deficit for Scotland/Wales/Ireland is not a proportion of UK deficit, it is their position if they had FFA for instance - the gap that would they would have to fund themselves.....

sss555s

antrobus wrote: »

I'd have thought that was more relevant, than some 'comment'. I'd call that scraping the barrel.:)

Anyone who doesn't admit that the way Scotlands deficit is worked out as part of the UK is very different to how it would be in an independent Scotland is talking BS.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Another example of SNP duplicity being discussed in these forums, this time Aileen Campbell following her less-than-successful Radio 4
chat about IVF etc.

Scotland's health minister in fact knows FA about health.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5623035

.string.

sss555s wrote: »

Anyone who doesn't admit that the way Scotlands deficit is worked out as part of the UK is very different to how it would be in an independent Scotland is talking BS.

What that says is that the SNP will do the sums differently.

But, seriously, you seem to be invoking the Holy Separatists'Trinity:

1 Westminster is the root of all evil
2 Scots are a super race, capable of leaping economic barriers in a single bound
3 Fairy dust awaits on the other side of Separation.

mayonnaise

.string. wrote: »

What that says is that the SNP will do the sums differently.

But, seriously, you seem to be invoking the Holy Separatists'Trinity:

1 Westminster is the root of all evil
2 Scots are a super race, capable of leaping economic barriers in a single bound
3 Fairy dust awaits on the other side of Separation.

Ahaa, yes! Pretty similar to the Brexiteer's Holy Trinity, no?

1 The EU is the root of all evil
2 Brits are a super race, capable of leaping economic barriers in a single bound
3 Fairy dust awaits on the other side of Brexit.