The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

Shaka_Zulu

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Is a fine balance. I'm glad they suspended the debate,

Yes I think you are absolutely right, no point on carrying on when people's minds are elsewhere.

Shaka_Zulu

The Govanhell posters that have been popping up

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But she thinks her day job is "campaigner for independence".

You wont find her doing something boring like running a country, after all that's not what the people of Scotland want is it, they don't want someone running the country and keeping the economy on an even keel!

LABMAN

Is the gullible OP ready to start another pointless thread once this one reaches the magic 10k of posts? So many relevant POV have been missed because an SNP acolyte was wrong.

Shakethedisease

LABMAN wrote: »

Is the gullible OP ready to start another pointless thread once this one reaches the magic 10k of posts? So many relevant POV have been missed because an SNP acolyte was wrong.

Yes, yes I am ( going to start a new thread ). Thanks for reminding me about the 10k post thing. Appreciated.

elantan

Shaka_Zulu wrote: »

The Govanhell posters that have been popping up

Put up by a halocaust denier ...

A_Medium_Size_Jock

elantan wrote: »

Put up by a halocaust denier ...

And quoted by an English pro-SNP advocate with a pseudo-Scots patois who has already stated a desire to move abroad!

Shakethedisease

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

And quoted by an English pro-SNP advocate with a pseudo-Scots patois who has already stated a desire to move abroad!

Stay classy Jock !!! "A Force For Good" who are putting up the posters ( and their leader is a holocaust denier )... are more than a little rattled about the prospect of a second referendum.

Beware the Bravado of the 'Bring it On' Brigade: 18 Reasons to be Careful

THE OBVIOUS POINTS

1. Separatists Starting from Higher Ground
This time around, support for separation is starting from almost level pegging.
Last time it rose from (depends who you consult) 25 or 27, or 28 to 45%. That is, it rose by anything from 17-20%. A recent poll put it on 50%. Well, we don't want to be adding any numbers to that percentage this time around!
Again, momentum has to be on our side.


2. Our Big Hitters are Gone
We have no big hitters left. In 2015, we had the Jim Murphys, Gordon Browns, Alistair Darlings and Douglas Alexanders. All gone. Who has Labour got now? Who is going to travel around the towns and cities of Scotland making the pro-UK case?


3. We've already Lost some of our Major Arguments
For example, in 2014 a shared British Income Tax system was a powerful argument. It was something which was easy to understand and worked for us. Post-Scotland Act 2016, we no longer have a shared Income Tax system!
The cost of setting up a new tax system for Scotland – another powerful argument – has also gone. A new tax system is being set up anyway, and the cost of it, ironically, is presently being absorbed by the Great British Taxpayer – thanks to the 'unionist' parties, the Smith Commission and the Scotland Act 2016.


4. Most MSPs will be Compromised on the EU Issue
Membership of the EU for Scotland might become a major issue at a post-Brexit referendum.
Most MSPs are compromised on this issue. For example, witness the Scottish Labour Party and Lib Dems voting against triggering Article 50 in Holyrood on 7 Feb 2017. Only 3 Labour MSPs joined with the 31 Tories to vote for it. (1)
The party leaders Kezia Dugdale (Labour) and Willie Rennie (Lib Dems) even voted to reject triggering Article 50.
This means that much of this pro-UK voice at Holyrood will be highly compromised when attempting to defend the UK during a referendum where joining the EU could be a central issue!


MEDIA POWER
5. Some Newspapers could turn Separatist
Last time, the Daily Record played a significant role in confusing the pro-UK message and corrupting the British Constitution when it created its so-called 'Vow'. Where does it have to go, if there is a next time around? Even more 'devolution'? Or would it support separation? We have to consider the serious possibility! Such a move would be disastrous for the pro-UK cause.

http://www.aforceforgood.org.uk/strategy/ref4


...and on on so forth. Smell the fear there ? :cool: The posters are a result of that. Desperate tactics really.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Stay classy Jock !!! "A Force For Good" who are putting up the posters ( and their leader is a holocaust denier )... are more than a little rattled about the prospect of a second referendum.
...and on on so forth. Smell the fear there ? :cool: The posters are a result of that. Desperate tactics really.

More classy than what was being referred to.


Fear?
Yeah, right - it is patently obvious just where the fear is coming from.
How is that parliamentary petition coming along?
Ah yes, over 210,000 voluntary votes against another referendum to date - without any major publicity to even say that there IS such a petition.
How many would it be with good publicity?

Together with recent polls showing that a majority of Scots still want to remain part of the union and yet Sturgeon showing desperation to get a referendum ASAP it's easy to see where the fear is.

elantan

Lol I take it Jock still loves me as much ? Poor lad must be missing me interacting with him


It really seems to grind some people's gears that I am English pro indy and intend on moving abroad .. the fact it seems to be British Nationalists just makes me smile all the more