The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

beecher2

http://www.europeanfutures.ed.ac.uk/article-4667
This is the extended article by Kirsty Hughes and Tobias Lock. A good read on Brexit, regardless of what you think of Scottish Independence. It is a relief to read a paper which is talking about possible outcomes, rather than trying to pretend that they know exactly what is going to happen. Anyone who claims to know 'facts' about the future is at it.

Shaka_Zulu

beecher2 wrote: »

Wow. I didn't know people still said stuff like this!

PC liberal millenials might not but some of us are holding out and still call a spade a f.....g shovel!

beecher2

Shaka_Zulu wrote: »

PC liberal millenials might not but some of us are holding out and still call a spade a f.....g shovel!

Nothing to do with being PC and I'm far too old to be a millennial. Just think it is a bizarre comment to make 70 odd years after WW2

mollycat

beecher2 wrote: »

51% don't want a referendum 'in the next few years'. You can't assume that they would all be happy for a Westminster government to refuse to agree to one being held. 70% is a bit of a reach, but not as much as you thinking it'd be game over!

Not everyone has the default mindset of the scottish nationalist; easily offended, driven by imaginary grudge and injustice.

Most people don't react negatively when something they agree with happens.

Westminster could give Scotland the moon and people here would reject it as "oppression".

Not happy till you make everyone poorer, including yourself

If the Turkeys want to vote for Xmas fine; but dont take the rest of the farm with you.

Shaka_Zulu

beecher2 wrote: »

http://www.europeanfutures.ed.ac.uk/article-4667

There is considerable political goodwill to Scotland in EU capitals since it is facing Brexit despite having voted to remain. That political goodwill, on current trends, is likely to feed into an effort to fast-track Scotland’s EU membership in the event of a successful independence vote.

The quote above just about sums it up. The only potential "good will" will come if the EU political establishment decided to make an example of the rUK. I can't honestly see that playing out too well if their whole agenda is sticking the boot in.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

mollycat wrote: »

[STRIKE]Westminster[/STRIKE] The EU could give Scotland Britain the moon and people [STRIKE]here[/STRIKE] who voted Brexit would reject it as "oppression".

Not happy till you make everyone poorer, including yourself

If the Turkeys want to vote for Xmas fine; but dont take the rest of the farm with you.

Fixed that for you....;)

Shaka_Zulu

beecher2 wrote: »

Nothing to do with being PC and I'm far too old to be a millennial. Just think it is a bizarre comment to make 70 odd years after WW2

How will you cope if I start using the Zulu War or the Boer Wars as metaphors then!

mollycat

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Fixed that for you....;)

Except that version isn't true

TrickyTree83

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Fixed that for you....;)

mollycat is correct, that's not even close to the truth.

If Cameron had come back with meaningful change, do you think the result would have been different?

I do. The EU needs meaningful change, just the top brass don't want to do it, didn't in early 2016 and don't now.

beecher2

Shaka_Zulu wrote: »

The quote above just about sums it up. The only potential "good will" will come if the EU political establishment decided to make an example of the rUK. I can't honestly see that playing out too well if their whole agenda is sticking the boot in.

I don't understand your logic. The EU wants Scotland to remain in the EU, what happens with rUK in the case of independence is a completely separate issue.