The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

TrickyTree83

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Nope. The Yes campaign ( and again I'm talking purely about campaigning here ) spent the best part of three years being happy clappy, 100% positive, keeping dignified silences and being continually on the defensive on every single issue that came up.
The Tories then spent the first half of 2015 and the last GE campaign in faux hysterics over Scottish MP's and plastering billboards all over the place portraying the former First Minister of Scotland as a thief.

Well past time for the gloves to come off imo. And the SNP have hopefully taken notes from the most recent masterclasses in negative campaigning.. otherwise known as the last Conservative party General Election campaign which succeeded well beyond all expectations, and both Leave/Remain Brexit campaigns where the biggest negative campaign won.

Scotland's had since 2011 to extensively mull over the positives of independence, it's now time some of the negatives of the union were brought into sharp focus too. Because without a doubt any future No side will be repeating the same negative campaign messages as in 2014. Time to answer back far more robustly than previously.

Haha, what positives?

If there was an argument to be made you'd have made it on here already and shut us all up.

Shakethedisease

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Haha, what positives?

If there was an argument to be made you'd have made it on here already and shut us all up.

I've posted on all the Scottish threads here from early 2011 onwards. I've argued plenty of positives in my time here.

Time to start ramping up some negatives. And anyway regardless of what I think personally this is what the SNP/Greens and any future Yes campaign are going to do without a shadow of a doubt. I've pointed you towards it now on several occasions noting how the language is shifting.

Those polls wont go up for independence by themselves !

TrickyTree83

Shakethedisease wrote: »

I've posted on all the Scottish threads here from early 2011 onwards. I've argued plenty of positives in my time here.

Time to start ramping up some negatives. And anyway regardless of what I think personally this is what the SNP/Greens and any future Yes campaign are going to do without a shadow of a doubt. I've pointed you towards it now on several occasions noting how the language is shifting.

Those polls wont go up for independence by themselves !

In other words - "There aren't any."

I've been through it many times with you, apart from your own personal emotions on the topic, there is nothing positive about it. It's a terrible idea.

mrginge

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Nope. The Yes campaign ( and again I'm talking purely about campaigning here ) spent the best part of three years being happy clappy, 100% positive, keeping dignified silences and being continually on the defensive on every single issue that came up.
The Tories then spent the first half of 2015 and the last GE campaign in faux hysterics over Scottish MP's and plastering billboards all over the place portraying the former First Minister of Scotland as a thief.

Well past time for the gloves to come off imo. And the SNP have hopefully taken notes from the most recent masterclasses in negative campaigning.. otherwise known as the last Conservative party General Election campaign which succeeded well beyond all expectations, and both Leave/Remain Brexit campaigns where the biggest negative campaign won.

Scotland's had since 2011 to extensively mull over the positives of independence, it's now time some of the negatives of the union were brought into sharp focus too. Because without a doubt any future No side will be repeating the same negative campaign messages as in 2014. Time to answer back far more robustly than previously.

It's certainly true that Cameron was one of the most odious slimeballs ever to enter public office, but picking up his !!!!-stained project fear chalice seems a high risk strategy.
It's not a bad trick to play once, maybe twice and he *just* got away with it in the GE (which was as much about the lib Dems and labour wrecking their own chances imo) but it no-one's falling for it again.

If anyone tries to play it down here I suspect they will be so discredited that it would ruin any hopes of victory. And I definitely can't see the risk-averse Scots falling for it.

But good luck with it. I can honestly say if that's they way the campaign will be run I can't wait for it to get started.

elantan

Top trolling by the SNP tonight . Brilliant stuff ... had me in stitches ....

Thrugelmir

elantan wrote: »

Top trolling by the SNP tonight . Brilliant stuff ... had me in stitches ....

Hardly surprising that the SNP aren't taken seriously.

elantan

Oh they are taken very seriously ... to the chargin of many of the other parties

It's glorious to watch ... well it is with popcorn and a sense of humour anyway

islandannie

elantan wrote: »

Top trolling by the SNP tonight . Brilliant stuff ... had me in stitches ....

I,m sure it did,considering the Nazi past of SNP leader Arthur Donaldson who cared not that English children were being bombed and burnt to death by German bombers.
I think it more appropriate that they whistled and sang to the party of your roots.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/mi5-file-links-former-snp-leader-to-nazi-plan-1-1103305

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5X6U55LhcI&t=29s

Can anyone see the close resemlence of the Swastika to the SNP logo?

mollycat

Watch out Annie.

They don't like being compared to other forms of Nationalism.

** Their nationalism is good**

Their Nationalism is not build on racism**

** Their Nationalism does not rely on scapegoating other groups**

** Their nationalism will miraculously turn our economy into a world beater**

** SARCASM ALERT**

elantan

I take it that was an old referal to the nazis ... how original never heard that before