The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

CLAPTON

elantan wrote: »

Have u not figured out yet they are a minority government ? You struggling with that ?

And are you not aware the Scottish parliament was set up that way? The fact the SNP broke the system last time and got a majority should have never happened ...

How hard is this stuff to understand ?

is there a different voting system for th SNP and the other parties?

do you admire the first past the post system in UK wide elections that provide a tory government?

Shakethedisease

elantan wrote: »

That SNP bubble hasn't half burst .... by election last night ... SNP majority up by over 2% ... another seat saved labour plummeted and the tories took a lot of their %

And to think not that long ago you could've put a red rosette on Fred West and he would've got elected

Got to be honest I think this is more due to Labour voters not bothering to go out and vote anymore rather than loads of people swapping straight from Labour to Tory ( though there will be a few of those in Kilmarnock who are of the George Square 2014 variety ).

Is pushing up the Tory vote share % on low turnouts. Imo of course.

CLAPTON

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Got to be honest I think this is more due to Labour voters not bothering to go out and vote anymore rather than loads of people swapping straight from Labour to Tory ( though there will be a few of those in Kilmarnock who are of the George Square 2014 variety ).

Is pushing up the Tory vote share % on low turnouts. Imo of course.

does this mean the polls are showing 60% ish for iscotland.

will dithering Nicola tell you the iscotland date and will she allow you you know what currency you will use and your banking regime?

Thrugelmir

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Got to be honest I think this is more due to Labour voters not bothering to go out and vote anymore

Doesn't mean that they never will. Nothing better than a protest vote to vent their displeasure.

baldelectrician

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

So how come they are struggling to get their budget through?

https://www.holyrood.com/articles/news/snp-budget-stalemate-leads-election-warning

Oooops, seems they are lacking an overall majority.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/snp-loses-overall-majority-in-scottish-parliament-a7016131.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2016/scotland

This is all good news- if the budget passes its a n SNP success, if the budget fails then there will be another Scottish election where the SNP are unlikely to do worse and may do better- they could even fling in a referendum promise into their manifesto (again)

Shakethedisease

gfplux wrote: »

Thanks for that. Looks like a very interesting time ahead.

Yes. What happens if Holyrood doesn't vote these things through (very likely) and what are these significant consequences Mundell talks of ?

Holyrood's consent is likely to be needed for the Great Repeal Bill which unpicks EU laws from the UK, the Scottish Secretary has said.David Mundell said consent was not needed for newly published legislation for triggering Article 50.
But he said there could be "significant implications" if Holyrood did not give the go-ahead to the repeal bill.

Speaking following the meeting at Holyrood, Mr Mundell said: "The bill has not been published, so you can't be definitive, but given the Great Repeal Bill will both impact on the responsibilities of this parliament on and on the responsibilities of Scottish ministers, it's fair to anticipate that it would be the subject of a legislative consent process.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-38757264

elantan

Aye fluffy is getting all angry and threatening .... ah nearly spat make porridge oot laughing when I read it

mrginge

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Yes. What happens if Holyrood doesn't vote these things through (very likely) and what are these significant consequences Mundell talks of ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-38757264

I would imagine that the EU-loving SNP would be fully committed to retaining the existing laws handed down by the EU.

What possible reason could they have for telling the Scottish electorate that the employment rights they currently enjoy are no longer acceptable?

It seems that the 'bonfire of rights' scare tactics may come true after all. But ironically it would be the tories trying to retain the existing rules and the SNP lighting the match.

Thrugelmir

mrginge wrote: »

What possible reason could they have for telling the Scottish electorate that the employment rights they currently enjoy are no longer acceptable?

Laws can be changed they are not set in stone.

Moto2

Ask the devolved parliaments to draft their own Great Repeal Bill in terms of the detail and consistent with their devolved powers. If they decline they will have no EU consistent laws or workers rights come Brexit day

The Westminster bill could then be subject to EVEL.

The SNP may well not want Brexit (neither do I) but it would be self-destructive in the extreme to try to make it any worse than it may well be.
Brexit will happen (it has to) no later than 2 years after A50, Great Repeal act or not. The act is just admin.