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The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

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  • beecher2
    beecher2 Posts: 3,677 Forumite
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    edited 9 November 2016 at 12:43PM
    wotsthat wrote: »
    Sturgeon..

    Just who is advising her?!

    What do you see wrong with the statement? Kezia tweeted 'Control Alt Delete' and stated that she was personally heartbroken (and was in the States campaigning for Clinton) and Ruth Davidson said it wasn't the result she wanted. I'm not sure Nicola Sturgeon's comments are all that controversial.

    Here's a link to the political reaction in Scotland
    http://stv.tv/news/politics/1372436-scotland-reacts-to-donald-trump-s-us-election-victory/
  • Conrad
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    Sturgeon and co, one of few remaining arrogant liberal cliques still clinging to power in the west. I reckon Ruth Davidson will soon have her for breakfast.
  • beecher2
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    Hintza wrote: »
    Well Nicola's "I'm with her" line makes her look an even bigger fanny than before!

    This comment really does say more about you than NS
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    beecher2 wrote: »
    What do you see wrong with the statement? Kezia tweeted 'Control Alt Delete' and stated that she was personally heartbroken (and was in the States campaigning for Clinton) and Ruth Davidson said it wasn't the result she wanted. I'm not sure Nicola Sturgeon's comments are all that controversial.

    Fairly simple. Anyone who wants to give the impression of being statesmanlike and a player on a world stage should think a bit harder about what they say.

    She could've said what she really thought, she could've just offered congratulations with good grace or she could've said nothing. Back handed congratulations do nothing to enhance her status.
  • beecher2
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    wotsthat wrote: »
    Fairly simple. Anyone who wants to give the impression of being statesmanlike and a player on a world stage should think a bit harder about what they say.

    She could've said what she really thought, she could've just offered congratulations with good grace or she could've said nothing. Back handed congratulations do nothing to enhance her status.

    I don't think it'll do anything to enhance or detract from her status and I think it was important to reflect the sentiment of many Scots to Trump's. Many across the world will feel anxious. Did you read the whole statement?
    http://news.gov.scot/news/first-minister-comments-on-outcome-of-us-election
  • wotsthat
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    beecher2 wrote: »
    I don't think it'll do anything to enhance or detract from her status and I think it was important to reflect the sentiment of many Scots to Trump's. Many across the world will feel anxious. Did you read the whole statement?
    http://news.gov.scot/news/first-minister-comments-on-outcome-of-us-election

    Yes, I've read the whole thing now.

    Given her sentiment she's hypocritical even offering congratulations although I'm sure the many anxious people across the world will be reassured. She's made herself look like a town councillor.

    Here's how to do it...
    I would like to congratulate Donald Trump on being elected the next president of the United States, following a hard-fought campaign.

    Britain and the United States have an enduring and special relationship based on the values of freedom, democracy and enterprise. We are, and will remain, strong and close partners on trade, security and defence.

    I look forward to working with president elect Donald Trump, building on these ties to ensure the security and prosperity of our nations in the years ahead.

    I'm pretty sure Mrs. May thinks Trump is a bit of a tit but she at least had the common sense to not pick a side in the US elections quite so overtly.
  • kabayiri
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    wotsthat wrote: »
    Fairly simple. Anyone who wants to give the impression of being statesmanlike and a player on a world stage should think a bit harder about what they say.

    She could've said what she really thought, she could've just offered congratulations with good grace or she could've said nothing. Back handed congratulations do nothing to enhance her status.

    I'd rather we had a UK voice responding to Trump's election, and not comments from individual regions.

    She didn't need to say anything. PM May offered a timely and welcoming response.
  • beecher2
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    Fair enough, I didn't think NS should've openly support Hillary Clinton myself, and didn't think much of Kezia Dugdale actively campaigning in the States. I thought it was a misstep by both of them. I just don't think it will have any impact on NS's status.
  • beecher2
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    kabayiri wrote: »
    I'd rather we had a UK voice responding to Trump's election, and not comments from individual regions.

    She didn't need to say anything. PM May offered a timely and welcoming response.

    We're not a 'region', we have a parliament and it is perfectly normal for the leaders of our parties to make a statement. There is no 'UK voice' - would you really not expect Jeremy Corbyn to make a statement?
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    beecher2 wrote: »
    We're not a 'region', we have a parliament and it is perfectly normal for the leaders of our parties to make a statement. There is no 'UK voice' - would you really not expect Jeremy Corbyn to make a statement?

    No, in answer to your question.

    PM May's answer was sufficient.

    We don't need Sturgeons' utterings. She carries no weight.
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