The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

Shakethedisease

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

I wasn't looking to equate Scotland voting to leave the UK with the UK voting to leave the EU since that's not what I said.

I was saying that an advisory referendum in the UK appears to have to be ratified by the sovereign parliament. Everyone here knows that the EU has articles in the Lisbon treaty which provide for exiting the EU, there is no such legislation in the UK.

So lets put that comparison to one side please.

No, it's an important factor going forward that the legislation doesn't exist. The equation with the EU stopping the UK leaving via a vote is a useful analogy. Because it would never happen.

If the EU referendum, which was advisory, can be voted down in Westminster it also logically follows that a Scottish advisory referendum can be voted down in Westminster based on the same statute if the high court ruling is upheld.

The vote would be held in Scotland under Scottish Law so would also come into play. Think along the lines of the Lockerbie trial which was held under Scottish Law rather than UK law.

Then there's the fact that English and Welsh MP's would be voting on matters which their constituents haven't got any representation nor voted on. As well as EVEL what's all that about if not to separate English votes from Scottish ones. An absolute minefield there.

To me that appears to be a dead end, whilst I would expect that MP's will reflect the will of the people with regards to advisory referenda it's entirely possible that they will not.

I suppose it is possible. But not very practical in reality.

You're correct that I don't know the figures of a deal between the UK and the EU, no one will since it's a future possibility. So in comparing Scotland in the UK or the EU we should assume a position, either favourable terms or awful terms.

I'm not sure what you're saying here.

Hintza

Shakethedisease wrote: »

That's why the SNP keep winning elections in Scotland.

Do they?

The Scottish Parliament elections didn't go so well did they?

Local council elections are going quite to plan either. Poor Nicola's dad failed in his nepotistic attempt at being elected. The Tories are nicking council seats in the highlands.

I think you are getting ahead of yourself shakey!

Hintza

Time for a wee change of focus.

Nicola Sturgeon’s incompetent leadership revealed, 58 Scottish police stations ‘under threat of closure’ because the Scottish National Party doesn’t know the first thing about government, leadership or management, policing must be kept local and the SNP need to find the money to pay for it.

http://glasgowunihumanrights.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/nicola-sturgeons-incompetent-leadership.html

Where is that imbecile Michael Matheson any way? He certainly isn't up to the day job and they can't even replace him because he is the best they have.

By the way shakey I don't hate the SNP I just think you are all misguided and in the thrall of the leader.

Shakethedisease

Hintza wrote: »

Time for a wee change of focus.



http://glasgowunihumanrights.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/nicola-sturgeons-incompetent-leadership.html

Where is that imbecile Michael Matheson any way? He certainly isn't up to the day job and they can't even replace him because he is the best they have.

By the way shakey I don't hate the SNP I just think you are all misguided and in the thrall of the leader.

Is these more 'cracks beginning to show for the SNP on repeat' posts ?

And in reality, how many people these days walk into police stations in order to contact the police rather than say phoning, emailing or following police social media accounts and interacting that way ? I know these days if there are any local incidents happening ( car accidents, spates of robberies etc etc ) it comes up on both twitter and facebook feeds I have with local residents all commenting and updating.

Time moves on. The police will have to as well. Little point in keeping loads of stations open where hardly anyone uses them. And anyway the article say's 'under threat' not closing down all of then tomorrow.

zagubov

Hintza wrote: »

Do they?

The Scottish Parliament elections didn't go so well did they?
I thought they increased their vote? And if they didn't win more seats, well them's the breaks.

Local council elections are going quite to plan either. Poor Nicola's dad failed in his nepotistic attempt at being elected. And so much for the idea of nepotism if NIc's dad doesn't win an election. The Tories are nicking council seats in the highlands.I'd love to see where the council seats in the more populous parts of Scotland are going to land.

I think you are getting ahead of yourself shakey!

Well, comfort yourself with that thought. I've said a hundred times, they're not voting for the SNP because they love them but because all the alternative parties would be out of their depth in a car park puddle. The unionist parties need to up their game, if they care to do so, and know how to do it. Until they do, the SNP will fill the void.

Moto2

Looks like a newly independent Scotland would have to suck up to Trump (again) for a whole bunch of things, now that would be funny
"we didn't really mean it Don, honest"

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

kabayiri

Moto2 wrote: »

Looks like a newly independent Scotland would have to suck up to Trump (again) for a whole bunch of things, now that would be funny
"we didn't really mean it Don, honest"

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Indeed. Maybe Nicola could send the new president a gift.

Perhaps a wind turbine decked out in the style of the statue of liberty, with scales in one hand and a golf club in the other?

Moto2

kabayiri wrote: »

Indeed. Maybe Nicola could send the new president a gift.

Perhaps a wind turbine decked out in the style of the statue of liberty, with scales in one hand and a golf club in the other?

I believe a pair of Tartan trews would be appropriate, Salmond knows a good place to get them, use the gov cheque book.

.string.

I have on good authority (ie from a reluctant study of SNat logic) that Hawaii is about to declare a referendum for independence due to the fact that, in spite of them voting 60% for Clinton, Trump will become President. For the HNP this is clearly yet another example of Wicked (Washington) passing laws and doing things (anything actually) which are not authorised by the embodiment of the Hawaii People, the Hawaii National Party. It is proposed that Hawaii join the Peoples Republic of China to assume their rightful place and influence in the world.

Conrad

In my February Trump thread in my opening post I warned Scotland it might not be a good idea for Salmond and co to keep antagonising the future US leader.

A prime example of the smug arrogance of liberals, once again back firing, when will they ever learn