The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

.string.

beecher2 wrote: »

Complains about the delay, the uncertainty and the fact it wasn't what was promised. The two union guys said much the same. Nicola Sturgeon says she welcomes the work, but she's well within her rights to point out that there are 8 ships being built and not 13, and that there's been a delay.

What a miserable whingeing woman she is, especially noting that:

The number of planned new frigates was later scaled back from 13 to eight in the Strategic Defence Review, with the MoD now planning to build five smaller Type 31 warships in addition to the Type 26 fleet.

You couldn't give her a Mars Bar without her complaining that the wrapper was paper instead of chocolate.

kabayiri

molerat wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-37861162 and she complains about it !

It just shows you who brings quality jobs to Scotland. That would be the hated Westminster crowd.

Sturgeon is just a political Victor Meldrew. Built to moan.

kabayiri

.string. wrote: »

What a miserable whingeing woman she is, especially noting that:



You couldn't give her a Mars Bar without her complaining that the wrapper was paper instead of chocolate.

Socialists and others dependent on the state do this.

It's always someone else's fault.

What happened to the great Scottish ambition? Even the Scottish football is third rate now. It's sad actually.

TrickyTree83

kabayiri wrote: »

Socialists and others dependent on the state do this.

It's always someone else's fault.

What happened to the great Scottish ambition? Even the Scottish football is third rate now. It's sad actually.

Have you learnt nothing from this thread?

Independence is the answer.

We don't know why, or how, we just know that it is.

wotsthat

Shakethedisease wrote: »

In which case, and as the third biggest party currently.. you should be more worried that the Lib Dems gain traction by opposing Brexit knocking out any Tory majority and the SNP ending up holding the balance of power ( even if they lose a few NE seats in Scotland ).

The media was freaking out about that possibility last time round. Hopefully they'll do so again, as the unintentional anti-Scots narrative that prevailed with the Salmond posters, 'rivers of blood' articles etc.. punted loads of angry people the SNP's way votes wise.

I don't remember the media freaking out last time and I'm not that worried about it anyway. I've mentioned that I think the SNP peaked last year and I'd be interested to see if my bias would be confirmed.

beecher2

kabayiri wrote: »

It just shows you who brings quality jobs to Scotland. That would be the hated Westminster crowd.

Sturgeon is just a political Victor Meldrew. Built to moan.

It's interesting you see it that way. Many see her as standing up for Scotland's interests. All depends on your point of view.

.string.

kabayiri wrote: »

Socialists and others dependent on the state do this.

It's always someone else's fault.

What happened to the great Scottish ambition? Even the Scottish football is third rate now. It's sad actually.

With an England Scotland game coming up I would not dare agree with you on that last point!

But that whole whinge thing about the ships is particularly galling to someone like me from the Southern edge of the UK - we lost significant work on those ships from what I still believe was a politically aided decision to put the work on the Clyde. In the interests of UK cohesiveness I go along with it but I don't like Sturgeon's graceless whingeing.

kabayiri

beecher2 wrote: »

It's interesting you see it that way. Many see her as standing up for Scotland's interests. All depends on your point of view.

So should I demand that Westminster move the work to an English shipyard, being a voter down here?

I should stand up for the interests of England obviously.

Why would I want a potentially future foreign country building UK warships? I wouldn't want France building them either.

It's a broken relationship, I can agree. The sooner there is another independence referendum the better. Get it over with.

beecher2

kabayiri wrote: »

So should I demand that Westminster move the work to an English shipyard, being a voter down here?

I should stand up for the interests of England obviously.

Why would I want a potentially future foreign country building UK warships? I wouldn't want France building them either.

It's a broken relationship, I can agree. The sooner there is another independence referendum the better. Get it over with.

I'm just explaining to you how some people think. I'm sure plenty of people who don't vote SNP would agree with you, but there you go. Standing up for Scotland is fairly important to a lot of people.

Shakethedisease

wotsthat wrote: »

I don't remember the media freaking out last time and I'm not that worried about it anyway. I've mentioned that I think the SNP peaked last year and I'd be interested to see if my bias would be confirmed.

I do. About the SNP possibly holding the balance of power, Theresa May did a fair bit of stoking the flames herself actually.

Theresa May: SNP-Labour pact would spark biggest constitutional crisis since the abdication of Edward VIII

Britain will face its biggest constitutional crisis since Edward VIII abdicated in 1936 if Ed Miliband runs Britain with Nicola Sturgeon, Theresa May has warned.

In a dramatic intervention in the Election campaign, the Home Secretary questioned whether English voters would accept the 'legitimacy' of a Labour Government backed by Scottish Nationalists.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3055575/Theresa-SNP-Labour-pact-spark-biggest-constitutional-crisis-abdication-Edward-VIII.html

If there's another GE then May has to go to the country with either a hard or soft Brexit in her manifesto. Polling has been good so far because she's been trying to be all things to all people, a GE will force her hand. Hard or Soft Brexit will lose the Tories votes either way. Which brings a Labour/Lib Dem/SNP balance of power scenario to the fore again.

Either that or the SNP could just put independence in their manifesto. :cool:

I don't think there will be a GE personally. Too many variables.