The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

elantan

Utterly disgraceful shameful and shambolic behaviour from WM today ... disgusted by their treatment of pardoning gay men

Disgusted doesn't even come close

zagubov

elantan wrote: »

Utterly disgraceful shameful and shambolic behaviour from WM today ... disgusted by their treatment of pardoning gay men

Disgusted doesn't even come close

That's horrible ! :mad:

elantan

zagubov wrote: »

That's horrible ! :mad:

Nae wonder I want out this union ....

Maybe people need to see more of what's going on in their name

Shakethedisease

elantan wrote: »

Nae wonder I want out this union ....

Maybe people need to see more of what's going on in their nam.

What like this ?

Tories talked out @MrJohnNicolson's #TuringBill to pardon gay sex convictions. SNP MPs shouting shame.

#TuringBill @MrJohnNicolson absolute scandal that Tory Minister talked out Turing Bill in parliament! Why?? Just why?

JOHN NICOLSON M.P. ‏@MrJohnNicolson 7h7 hours ago JOHN NICOLSON M.P. Retweeted Gail Nash
Journalists getting briefed that ministers didn't want to see an @theSNP get on to the statute book.

John's tweet says it ALL and in essence the truth about how current Scot's MP's are regarded in Westminster. He won this Private Members Bill on some sort of parliament lottery. And he has been tweeting ever since about how much it meant to him bringing it forward. He tweeted a few days ago that there would be no tricks or underhand business in order to vote it though.

A harsh lesson in never trusting the Conservative party in delivering promises. :mad: I felt heart sick for him today.

Shakethedisease

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

I'm beginning to think you're paid to wind people up, or you get some sick enjoyment from it. You're contributing little but provocation.

I was on the other end of ruggedtoast's posts for years. In fact he started the last Scotland thread with an unflattering pic of Salmond eating a Tunnocks teacake while wearing a hairnet and it was titled as I said a few pages ago ( Fat Salmond/Fishy Sturgeon').. It kept going for over 10,000 posts.

But I've always had a great deal of respect for his tendency to cut through the crap to say what he means, in an extremely decorative and amusing way. Even when one is on the other end of the debate ( as I and other posters on that thread were for a very long time ). Try not to get too wound up, it's a debate forum not the UN.

islandannie

Shakethedisease wrote: »

I was on the other end of ruggedtoast's posts for years. In fact he started the last Scotland thread with an unflattering pic of Salmond eating a Tunnocks teacake while wearing a hairnet and it was titled as I said a few pages ago ( Fat Salmond/Fishy Sturgeon').. It kept going for over 10,000 posts.

But I've always had a great deal of respect for his tendency to cut through the crap to say what he means, in an extremely decorative and amusing way. Even when one is on the other end of the debate ( as I and other posters on that thread were for a very long time ). Try not to get too wound up, it's a debate forum not the UN.

What currency will we use as an independent country?

Simple question requiring a simple answer.

Shakethedisease

Shakethedisease wrote: »

I was on the other end of ruggedtoast's posts for years. In fact he started the last Scotland thread with an unflattering pic of Salmond eating a Tunnocks teacake while wearing a hairnet and it was titled as I said a few pages ago ( Fat Salmond/Fishy Sturgeon').. It kept going for over 10,000 posts.

But I've always had a great deal of respect for his tendency to cut through the crap to say what he means, in an extremely decorative and amusing way. Even when one is on the other end of the debate ( as I and other posters on that thread were for a very long time ). Try not to get too wound up, it's a debate forum not the UN.

Sorry forgot to say that I actually named this thread in homage to Ruggedtoast's amusing but acidic posts and thread titles.

islandannie

Shakethedisease wrote: »

I was on the other end of ruggedtoast's posts for years. In fact he started the last Scotland thread with an unflattering pic of Salmond eating a Tunnocks teacake while wearing a hairnet and it was titled as I said a few pages ago ( Fat Salmond/Fishy Sturgeon').. It kept going for over 10,000 posts.

But I've always had a great deal of respect for his tendency to cut through the crap to say what he means, in an extremely decorative and amusing way. Even when one is on the other end of the debate ( as I and other posters on that thread were for a very long time ). Try not to get too wound up, it's a debate forum not the UN.

The no vote is still leading in the polls,so bring it on i relish the opportunity to put this nonsense to bed for good..

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

islandannie wrote: »

Could any of you SNP cultists tell people what is different now?

Well I'm pretty much the opposite of an 'SNP Cultist', being a life long conservative voter and one of the more vociferous campaigners around here for the union, but I'll have a go.

If the UK chooses a hard Brexit the resultant hit to the UK economy would be roughly on par with the (factually correct IMO) warnings about the economic impact of Scottish Indy back when we all assumed the UK was staying in the EU.

And that's a game changer.

The same warnings that applied to Scotland leaving the UK then - a worse deficit than Greece, long term economic decline, etc, all apply to the UK leaving the EU today.

And therefore also to Scotland as a part of that UK.

So frankly we have a lot less to lose now, relatively speaking, but an awful lot more potential upside to being the one remaining part of the UK to stay in the EU or Single Market.

Which means we'd have a real opportunity to asset strip hundreds of billions of pounds worth of investment and economic activity away from the rapidly diminishing Brexitary rUK.

islandannie wrote: »

What currency will we use as an independent country?.

Hopefully the Euro - whilst we'd need to make significant cuts to get the deficit in line those cuts would ultimately be forced on the UK by the markets anyway - we're currently suffering a Sterling Crisis of a magnitude that would have toppled governments not that long ago on just a vote to leave let alone leaving.

So best just get on with it and have Scotland move towards adopting the Euro before any more exchange rate damage is done.

We should also join the Schengen zone as well to maximise free movement and efficiency.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

islandannie wrote: »

The no vote is still leading in the polls,so bring it on i relish the opportunity to put this nonsense to bed for good..

The last referendum campaign started with 25% for indy and ended up with 45% for indy.

The starting position today is 47% for indy....

I'd not be too sure that current polls will reflect the final outcome.

Especially with the extraordinary levels of bigotry coming out of Westminster at the moment - the rhetoric coming from the Tory conference was little short of disgusting - and today's fillibuster on the gay pardon issue was a national disgrace.

I could accept the bad parts of both the Conservative party and the Union because I saw them as being outweighed by the good.

That is rapidly changing....

And I know for a fact I'm not the only Conservative voter in Scotland to think so.