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The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

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  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    elantan wrote: »
    Aye i have to admit a few times over the weekend I choked on my popcorn, it's getting beyond funny now and into scary territory

    I agree with Lesley ( well I am a fan) another indy ref is now inevitable, I think even Kez will possibly once again review her position, to campaign with the Tories against indy would not serve her party well

    The anger in Nicola today was quite something, Swinney was excellent to watch as well ... and I love watching Christine Graham as well ... a politician I greatly admire

    Think Christina McKelivie''s anger was boiling over also, she is quite an animated politician ... good to watch talking

    Any video links at all? I didn't see any of this and I presume the MSM will try and bury it.
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    Scotland seceding unilaterally from the Union would be the biggest punch in the nose imaginable for this repulsive government and their cretinous Brexit supporters.

    I hope it can happen.
  • elantan
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    edited 6 October 2016 at 9:16PM
    Any video links at all? I didn't see any of this and I presume the MSM will try and bury it.


    I put a link up of FMQ today earlier ... it's usually available on you tube shortly after it airs, the weekend stuff about the Tory conference sorry watched that with a time delay didn't record it ... Lesley Riddoch was in the National talking

    Hope that helps
  • elantan
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    kabayiri wrote: »
    Once people are in the UK they are free to move about. They might be 'reserved' migrants, even introverts, but they are still mobile. They could ask about and discover that National Express still travel to Glasgow.

    But it seems they prefer the bright lights of London and the green fields of East Anglia, over Scotland.

    Even some of the Syrian refugees have been questioning their placement; some of those who arrived in Bute quoted as saying "We thought we were going to London or Manchester."

    Sheesh...it's coming to something when Manchester is being considered!

    The only view on UK immigration the SNP have is from one of those observatories with a decent telescope, pointed at London.


    Thinking they are going to Manchester and wanting to go to Manchester are two very different things, my understanding is the refugees have been made to feel welcome and have settled in, they have been actively participating in the local communities of which they reside

    But that doesn't suit the SNP bad rhetoric so we shouldn't really talk about happiness now should we
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    A new referendum is far from inevitable.

    It's not at all likely until after the UK has left the EU.

    You're kidding yourselves if you think otherwise. It won't be Westminster denying you the opportunity for another, but an acceptable reason of a new referendum complicating brexit and also hot on the heels of a referendum in 2014 are reasonable objections to holding one in the next two years or more.
  • Any video links at all? I didn't see any of this and I presume the MSM will try and bury it.
    Try here for today's FMQ's :- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAIiT7wylxQ

    Or there's a written summary here.
    Take the gentle opening exchange, which is worth quoting in full. Ms Davidson: “To ask the First Minister her engagements for the rest of the day.”

    Nicola Sturgeon: “I welcome Ruth Davidson back from Birmingham. I hope she is thoroughly ashamed of the xenophobic rhetoric she was surrounded by over the past few days.”

    And that was the high point. It was all downhill from there for Ruth ‘hug a bigot’ Davidson.
    http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/14787563.FMQs_sketch__Brexit_Blues/


    Enjoy.
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    what is the SNP position on immigration?
  • CLAPTON wrote: »
    what is the SNP position on immigration?

    http://www.snp.org/pb_what_is_the_snp_s_policy_on_immigration
  • A new referendum is far from inevitable.

    It's not at all likely until after the UK has left the EU.
    It will be before the UK leaves the EU. There's no other logical way to stay in the EU.
    You're kidding yourselves if you think otherwise. It won't be Westminster denying you the opportunity for another, but an acceptable reason of a new referendum complicating brexit and also hot on the heels of a referendum in 2014 are reasonable objections to holding one in the next two years or more.
    There are always going to be reasonable objections, it's whether the reasons to hold one will be compelling enough to override them. May's done a fine job in the last few days in the compelling stakes.

    This was in the Daily ( Labour/the Vow ) Record this morning. I can't tell you how weird it was to see an editorial like this in that newspaper today.
    As long as May continues down this road, it is inevitable that many Scots will simply say “enough is enough”. Even those who instinctively feel we are “better together” will start to consider that independence is
    the only way to save ourselves from an increasingly bitter political mood in England.

    ..And it is the Conservative and UNIONIST Party who are driving people into the indy camp. Make no bones about it, May’s Tories are now the greatest recruiting sergeant for the independence cause there has EVER been.
    Yet Davidson and Mundell, who claim to cherish the Union, sit in the conference hall and clap along as their fellow Tories talk about lists of immigrants in the workplace and turning our backs on Europe.
    They must now take a deep breath and condemn the xenophobia and hatred that is unfolding before them.
    If they don’t, May will continue to pander to the worst elements of the Tory party – and in doing so she will rip the Union apart.
    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/record-vierw-8985968
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    It will be before the UK leaves the EU. There's no other logical way to stay in the EU.

    There are always going to be reasonable objections, it's whether the reasons to hold one will be compelling enough to override them. May's done a fine job in the last few days in the compelling stakes.

    This was in the Daily ( Labour/the Vow ) Record this morning. I can't tell you how weird it was to see an editorial like this in that newspaper today.
    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/record-vierw-8985968

    The subset of people interested in having the referendum before the UK leaves the EU does not under any circumstance trump the needs of the remainder of the population that require certainty during negotiations.

    It simply will not take place until after the UK leaves, if it happens at all.
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