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The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

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  • Una_Voidable
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    edited 12 March 2020 at 7:03PM
    NThe_Rainmaker said:
    Herzlos said:
    Whilst I'm sure we've been over this dozens of times, they don't want to maintain the payments in either direction - the money they get from Barnet is less than they send Westminster. 
    Do you have any figures to back this up?
    No, only the "calculations" (read: guesstimates) of a pro-indy "expert" which were briefly covered in one lonely Scots paper and which will now of course be taken as gospel fact by certain desperate indy types as seen above.  :D
  • The_Rainmaker
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    edited 12 March 2020 at 10:41PM
    Herzlos said:
    ................. but the numbers are a lot more obfuscated.
    So you don't have the numbers.

    And how much does Scotland chip in for things like defence etc?
  • Thrugelmir
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    Brent Crude was of course $100 a barrel in 2014. 
    Currently $34.


  • Herzlos
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    Herzlos said:
    ................. but the numbers are a lot more obfuscated.
    So you don't have the numbers.

    And how much does Scotland chip in for things like defence etc?
    I dont have the exact numbers as I'm no tax and accounting expert, nor do I have the time and access to unwind it all.

    But out it this way; if Barnett is actually unfair on us, surely it's better for you for it to be scrapped?
  • Enterprise_1701C
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    So, if Scotland are so prosperous, why did Sturgeon decide to keep the Barnett formula rather than go for full fiscal autonomy?

    https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-backs-down-full-fiscal-autonomy-1507391
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  • Herzlos
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    She explains in the 2nd paragraph in your link:
    [quote]So for as long as Scotland’s funding is still determined by Westminster then the Barnett formula should stay in place. Obviously if Scotland was to become in years ahead fiscally autonomous then we are in a different position but the Barnett formula should stay until that time.[/quote]

    She wants full fiscal autonomy, and keep the Barnett until that point.
  • The_Rainmaker
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    The SNP government are keeping more secrets than the Stasi. It's an utter disgrace.
  • Is the above supposed to be 'news' ? Scraping the barrell yawn.
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • Is the above supposed to be 'news' ? Scraping the barrell yawn.
    Something you are an expert on.
    The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists.
  • Shakethedisease
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    edited 13 March 2020 at 7:39PM
    I think the UK has more to worry about right now than Nicola Sturgeon's emails don't you Moe ? 

    The PM's current do nothing coronavirus strategy for a start... 
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
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