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The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

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  • No idea why Johnson feels the need to fund a bridge between (soon to be) EU countries.
    You have obviously never kept chickens!  Don't count them too early.
  • zagubov
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    No idea why Johnson feels the need to fund a bridge between (soon to be) EU countries.
    You have obviously never kept chickens!  Don't count them too early.
    Or bridges, for that matter.
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  • Herzlos
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    He doesn't, but whilst we're talking about a fictional bridge we're not talking about the U turns on the border in the Irish sea.

    It'd potentially be useful for an independent Scotland and unified Ireland, since it'd open up haulage routes via Fife. The same money would pay for an awful lot of ferries though.
  • Thrugelmir
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    Herzlos said:

    It'd potentially be useful for an independent Scotland and unified Ireland, since it'd open up haulage routes via Fife. The same money would pay for an awful lot of ferries though.
    The CalMac fiasco would suggest otherwise. 
  • Herzlos
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    That's supposedly cost £200m, which is 1.6% of the £12bn the bridge is meant to cost.
    We should be able to run a ferry better than that.
    This FOI https://www.gov.scot/publications/foi-17-01484/ shows that ferries cost something like £50m a year to run, or 0.4% of this bridge cost. That means we could run a ferry for 243 years for what the bridge is "estimated" to cost. Even if those figures are an order of magnitude out, and the running costs are £500m/year, that's still 24 years worth of ferries for the "estimated" build cost. The reality is we'd be looking at at least double, and the bridge will need some major repair work within 50 years.

  • Thrugelmir
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    edited 18 February 2020 at 7:50PM
    Herzlos said:
    That's supposedly cost £200m, which is 1.6% of the £12bn the bridge is meant to cost.
    We should be able to run a ferry better than that.


    As long as Government officials don't become involved. 
    The fleet requires some serious investment. Not least to go "green". 

  • zagubov
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    There was an outfit that wanted an independent Scotland linked to Ireland via train bridges or tunnels via the Isle of Man. Might haver been the Scottish Democratic Alliance, but not sure. Didn't expect to see it revived.
    I don't think the SNP are looking over their shoulder at them with serious concern.
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  • Arklight
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    edited 19 February 2020 at 12:29PM
    When Scotland declares independence, how flexible are they likely to be on the deadline for English people moving there and applying for residency?  Will we need to be resident before independence is declared, or will there be a grace period? 

    For most English people who don't want to be a part of Airstrip 1, English speaking  EU Scotland is the most viable route to remaining part of the world.

    What's the attitude up there to English immigrants? We aren't all Tory voting xenophobes!
  • Herzlos said:
    We're very pro migration, anyone is welcome to join our socialist dystopia :)
    (It's one of the more stark differences between Scotland and England)
    Of course they are. The problem is that no one wants to go there.
    The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists.
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