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The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

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  • zagubov
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    Good to see that the name NatWest is being reinstated and that UK taxpayers are receiving a further dividend. Fred Goodwins folly will remain a constant reminder of how the great have fallen from grace. 

    What's not so good is that as the Bank gets more profitable, long-suffering Joe Taxpayer is going to be squeezed out of the ownership equation now we've finished bailing it out and when it should be our turn to get some money back.
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  • Thrugelmir
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    zagubov said:
    abz88 said:
    zagubov said:
    No the EU. like the UK, is also a union, even though unlike the UK it's not a nation.

    On the other hand, the USSR was a nation; are you suggesting that all of Russia etc. should have voted on whether the  Baltic states should be free? The union was ten times bigger than them.

    Same situation with Serbia and Montenegro.
    The USSR was formed as a Union of Socialist Republics but it did not join them into a single nation and the original treaty even included what authorities that would be retained by the individual Republic that joined the Union.
    The UK was formed as two kingdoms joining to become one kingdom. Nowhere did it state the previous kingdoms would retain any powers separate form the UK (unlike with the USSR).

    Not really sure how that relates to Scottish Indy Refs? Did any of the Balkan states hold a referendum sanctioned by the USSR/Russia, vote to remain as part of USSR/Russia and then have their local Balkan Governments ignore that vote and try and force Indy on them regardless?
    Let's not get the Baltics and the Balkans muddled up!
    They're examples of countries  made of smaller countries where the smaller members of each union decided to leave but the larger members didn't take part in the decision.  Each seceding part was about one-tenth of the size of the wider union, a bit like Scotland and the UK. 

    While under Russian influence. The Balkans weren't part of the USSR. Were part of what was formerly know as Yugoslavia. 
  • zagubov
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    edited 15 February 2020 at 1:32AM
    The USSR and Yugoslavia were both socialist federations whose federal capitals were also the capitals of the most populous republic. So was Czechoslovakia for that matter. The three federations all splintered into component republics, about fifteen of them in Europe..
    Yugoslavia was neutral and not under the influence of the USSR since the 1950s.
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  • Arklight
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    Proud Scots will have their say. Blustering Bojo with his train set and meccano bridge models will not stop that doughty nation casting their vote for self determination. The EU is waiting, and while Little Englanders hide fearfully in their mushrooms, the Celtic nation turns its face to the world. 
  • Arklight said:
    Proud Scots will have their say. Blustering Bojo with his train set and meccano bridge models will not stop that doughty nation casting their vote for self determination. The EU is waiting, and while Little Englanders hide fearfully in their mushrooms, the Celtic nation turns its face to the world. 
    That is at least six times you have used a virtually identical post in this thread in the last year.  Sounds to me like you are taking the pith!
  • The_Rainmaker
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    edited 17 February 2020 at 6:37PM
  • zagubov
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    edited 17 February 2020 at 10:58PM
    Boris's bridge is an answer to a question nobody's asking. Like his Garden Bridge he promised us here in London and we're still waiting for.
    Next he'll try to assuage our fear of climate catastrophe by building a ladder to Mars.

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  • zagubov said:
    Boris's bridge is an answer to a question nobody's asking. Like his Garden Bridge he promised us here in London and we're still waiting for.

    As per the point has gone straight over your head.  (I'll give you a clue the point has nothing to do with bridges)
  • zagubov
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    That wouldn't surprise me. For years the Tories and the Unionist media have been saying to Scots that black is white and day is night. 
    No wonder the Mayor of London is following Nicola to Europe to see about future links for Londoners.
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