The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

baldelectrician

It's all up in the air
Did you see the link to Bloomberg site where Jim Rodgers mention the effect on Sterling if Scotland were to leave the UK


Tie this in with the McCrone report and you can see what Scots were not told.

loadsacash

It is all up in the air - either way it is going to be a hard few years. Both for Scotland and for the RUK.

As for the Mcrone Report - that was quite a few years ago Scotland will not get that money back!

Independence is now about do we want austerity as part of the uk or as an independent country?

Tromking

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Unfortunately massive change is coming either way. Either through Brexit or a leap of blind faith to independence. Scotland has the choice of two uncertain futures, there is no status quo anymore.


'Good luck selling that' I've been told here. Well am afraid Brexit isn't selling well either and at least with independence Scots voters at least have a measure of control and a say in the matter. Something which hasn't happened so far regarding any facet of Brexit negotiations. Unionist commentators haven't woken up that there is no safe and secure UK economy now with Brexit imminent.

Oh dear.
You still don’t realise that Scotland has escaped the worst excesses of Tory austerity and it’s down to Scotland’s highly favourable terms of its membership of the Union. Most Scots are not blind to that fact even you are. Even if the U.K. economy does tank post Brexit, Scotland will escape the worst of it just like it did post the 2008 crash simply because the rest of the U.K. will pick up the tab. Scots will not give up that rather useful firewall I’m sure.

antrobus

Tromking wrote: »

Oh dear.
You still don’t realise that Scotland has escaped the worst excesses of Tory austerity and it’s down to Scotland’s highly favourable terms of its membership of the Union...

That's actually quite true. One of the effects of austerity is that it has reversed the Barnett squeeze. Oddly enough, it's when and if austerity ends that the squeeze will return.

Thrugelmir

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Unfortunately massive change is coming either way. Either through Brexit or a leap of blind faith to independence. Scotland has the choice of two uncertain futures, there is no status quo anymore.

Don't disagree that massive change is on it's way. Though suspect that our views are totally different reasons. Mine are globally related. Rather than UK specific. Preaching to the converted is all very well. Convincing non believers requires action not words. Divorcing from the UK will make Brexit look like a childrens tea party.

Tromking

antrobus wrote: »

That's actually quite true. One of the effects of austerity is that it has reversed the Barnett squeeze. Oddly enough, it's when and if austerity ends that the squeeze will return.

Any signs yet if the higher personal taxes in Scotland are getting anywhere near closing the deficit in Scotland finances?
Clever move that IMO by the SNP, could be a game changer if they can pull it off.

Rainbowgirl84

Never in a month of Sundays will we vote for Independence...we are too cannae to ever do that. When it's a second no vote wee nippy should hand in her notice as should all SNP MSP's. Somehow I don't think that will happen!

baldelectrician

Rainbowgirl84 wrote: »

Never in a month of Sundays will we vote for Independence...we are too cannae to ever do that. When it's a second no vote wee nippy should hand in her notice as should all SNP MSP's. Somehow I don't think that will happen!

I agree
It won't be a second No vote

loadsacash

baldelectrician wrote: »

I agree
It won't be a second No vote

I agree too - there wont be a vote

Thrugelmir

baldelectrician wrote: »

If you failed to notice we have just had about 10 years of austerity inside the UK


The report out on Friday specifically states that there will be no austerity under this plan they put out for discussion, you must be thinking of the scenario we are currently in or the one where we stat in the UK

And everybody is going to acept that as gospel. Carney etc are incapable of forecasting interest rates. Who has the ability to forecast the performance of an entire economy based on assumptions. The UK electorate might have someting to say as well.