The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

TrickyTree83

Shakethedisease wrote: »

I have no idea what you're on about.

There are some roasters here still going on about things like RBS, Barnett and NHS outpatient waiting times... as if they'll matter if this Brexit thing turns into a disaster.

This Brexit thing turning NOT turning into a complete disaster is the only thing holding the union together at the present time. Sturgeon and everyone else of an indy persuasion can bide their time for now and let the spotlights hit Davis, May and Corbyn for a while. As already stated, Holyrood has already voted on the right to hold a second referendum.

You were talking about the number of GP's.

That Scotland has more GP's per population than any other UK constituent, whilst being in the UK. :T

antrobus

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

You were talking about the number of GP's.

That Scotland has more GP's per population than any other UK constituent, whilst being in the UK. :T

And without the annual £8bn or so subsidy, it might be a a tad difficult for any hypothetically independent Scotland to afford such a luxury.

kabayiri

Suppose we divide the Scots into 3 groups re independence :

- Fully committed Nats
- Nailed on Unionists
- Floating middle ground people.

You can't really expect the first 2 groups to change their tune much.

So to the floaters. If....there is a downturn, Brexit-led or otherwise, then this just increases things like job insecurity in their minds, does it not?

Does this kind of environment then encourage them to take an even greater leap in to the dark? I don't see it. People are in general naturally conservative.

TrickyTree83

antrobus wrote: »

And without the annual £8bn or so subsidy, it might be a a tad difficult for any hypothetically independent Scotland to afford such a luxury.

I was kind of hoping that went without saying, hence my saying Shakey was arguing for the union whilst arguing that Scotland is better than the rest :rotfl:

.string.

By the way, there are some interesting charts here
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-brexit-by-numbers/

In the meantime, I note that the timing of an indy2 referendum, having previously been described as being a slamdunk as soon as Article 50 was invoked, has morphed into being a matter of IF it is called at all. (Courtesy of Shakey a couple of pages back).

ThinkingOutLoud_2

Shakethedisease wrote: »

The graph was only one of many.

I addressed the total fallacy of the statements / graph you chose made in your post that Scotland had more GP's and so it was superior. I didn't address anything else.

Same BBC article also notes it is not Scotland overall but two parts of it doing better.
"But most of the progress has been concentrated in and around Glasgow and Edinburgh, where over a quarter of the population lives."

So my objection was not to the facts - but your extrapolating rubbish from facts e.g. on GP numbers or asserting the whole of Scotland is way better when that is not the case.

Shakethedisease

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

You're happy to quote it but you didn't check the facts?

Airlines from around the world fly in and out of the EU, clearly people from outside the EU do not need to be in it in order to catch a plane that goes there.

Euratom appears to be a fundamental misunderstanding of what Euratom is/does.

And the food produce ignores the rest of the world, presumably also thinking that the EU produces the vast majority of UK food produce when it doesn't.

And you my friend are in denial.

UK gov admits there's a risk the #Euratom exit causes a political shutdown of Hinkley nuclear & £22b in compensation

http://www.politico.eu/pro/brexit-nuclear-hinkley-point-22-billion-pay-out/

Shakethedisease

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

You were talking about the number of GP's.

That Scotland has more GP's per population than any other UK constituent, whilst being in the UK. :T

And they aren't threatening strike action either ? Why's that do you think ?

Shakethedisease

antrobus wrote: »

And without the annual £8bn or so subsidy, it might be a a tad difficult for any hypothetically independent Scotland to afford such a luxury.

I don't want a subsidy. That's why I will vote for independence in any future referendum or vote.

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

By the way, there are some interesting charts here
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-brexit-by-numbers/

In the meantime, I note that the timing of an indy2 referendum, having previously been described as being a slamdunk as soon as Article 50 was invoked, has morphed into being a matter of IF it is called at all. (Courtesy of Shakey a couple of pages back).

There will be a vote when all the other countries in the EU vote on it. Don't worry about that. Mind you the way things are going half of England and Wales will want another referendum vote too.. only an EU vote re run.