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The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

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  • .string.
    .string. Posts: 2,733 Forumite
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    edited 25 May 2017 at 5:12PM
    Scotland is not part of a currency union. It is part of a country that uses that currency.

    Sturgeon seems to be under the impression that Scotland could use the pound, in spite of previously being told that they could not. She also seems to think that if Scotland join the eu should independence ever come about, that they cannot be forced to take the euro. Problem is that an obligation to join the euro has been in the tready of accession since 2004.


    At the moment the Scottish Pound is a legal currency equivalent to Sterling. It is not legal tender and Scottish Banks are required to hand over Sterling, when asked, equivalent in number to Scottish Pounds on request.

    Were Scotland to become independent I would expect the UK Government to declare that Scottish Pounds are no longer legal tender in the rUK.

    Best advice to Scots --- get rid of your Scottish £ notes as soon if you ever smell the ill wind of separation .

    Otherwise your money will go south (literally)
    Union, not Disunion

    I have a Right Wing and a Left Wing.
    It's the only way to fly straight.
  • mollycat
    mollycat Posts: 1,475 Forumite
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    .string. wrote: »
    One can almost hear the spittle dropping on the floor. You fanatics are crazy.

    Why is she waiting for the end of the GE? Why not now?

    We will see what Sturgeon's new clothes are made of.

    Very perceptive.

    These pro-indy posters have driven themselves into such a grudge orientated frenzy several of them are now admitting on this thread they don't care if they are poorer in any iScotland.

    So, don't care about being poorer.
    Don't care about their fellow scots
    Don't care about rUK.
    Don't care about any cause that is relevant to their fellow man.
    Don't care about Scotland becoming Greece without the sun.

    Good for them; bring on page after page of nonsensical tripe here in an attempt to justify their selfish goals.

    Thankfully, no 2nd indyref! :T :T
  • Shakethedisease
    Shakethedisease Posts: 7,006 Forumite
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    wotsthat wrote: »
    It'll be another country's currency. It's going to be difficult enough to borrow without the added risk that Scotland might just change the peg and shaft her creditors.

    It'll be the immediate transitional period that needs focusing on. This is very likely to be a new currency pegged to sterling short term. The political as well as the economic landscape after independence is going to change significantly. The SNP as a political party is likely to die a relatively quick death and fracture. And there are other organisations and pro indy entities already producing reports and white papers on Scottish currency/deficit reduction plans. They've been rubbished to bits of course on here already.

    Scottish Conservatives, Labour and Lib Dems if they survive as separate political parties will also have to accept independence and produce their own currency plans and options for after any transitional phase is over.

    It's this initial transition phase that the SNP and any future Yes campaign will have to have water-tight, credible and sellable to the Scottish electorate. Unlike last time though, these plans aren't going to be released nearly a year ahead of any vote. And when they are there will be an army of economists lined up to sell the pros against a Brexit backdrop. It's the Brexit backdrop most on here do not take into account I'm afraid.. still fighting Scottish independence issues like currency on tired old 2014 terms which have long gone and certainly will have by the time the UK leaves the EU.
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • Yah_Boo_Sux
    Yah_Boo_Sux Posts: 133 Forumite
    I have no fight with anyone. I'm on a debate forum, debating. I'm not really sure what you think you're doing. :)

    I'm sorry that people like me don't find your answers and posts definitive enough so we can all pack up and go home after reading them. But that's how it goes.

    You seem determined to pick a fight though rather than debate despite that poster asking you - twice, mind - not to go down the same argumentative road that we in this thread have seen over these past few days.
    The point you attempt has been discussed, often and sometimes heatedly. Any reason why you want to return then to the same point because it sure as heck doesn't look like genuine debate from here.
    From here it seems strange that the two posters seemingly desperate to pick pointless argument (with one poster too I note) are both pro-SNP. Why is that?
  • Yah_Boo_Sux
    Yah_Boo_Sux Posts: 133 Forumite
    AMSJ,
    I was discussing with another poster in this thread on this subject.
    There will be cross thread discussions when the thread topics are overlapping.
    There's no need for you to try and dictate what or where I post

    Try reading what is written in posts ISTL?
    There's no "dictation" there, just a suggestion that
    If you really want to discuss the finery, go visit those threads.
    See that?
    "If you really want to".

    From the opinion of others here too you are in the habit of multiple posts of little content; AMSJ seems to have a valid point in what seems a very polite request. Now please stop being what looks like intentionally argumentative.
    Like I say above, from here it seems strange that the two posters seemingly desperate to pick pointless argument (with one poster too I note) are both pro-SNP. Why is that?
  • Yah_Boo_Sux
    Yah_Boo_Sux Posts: 133 Forumite
    Now, is there any danger of returning to debate regarding Scotland instead of argument?

    How about opinions of the Edinburgh anti-SNP plan or the SNP Labour coalition plan for Stirling?
  • Shakethedisease
    Shakethedisease Posts: 7,006 Forumite
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    Try reading what is written in posts ISTL?
    There's no "dictation" there, just a suggestion that
    See that?
    "If you really want to".

    From the opinion of others here too you are in the habit of multiple posts of little content; AMSJ seems to have a valid point in what seems a very polite request. Now please stop being what looks like intentionally argumentative.
    Like I say above, from here it seems strange that the two posters seemingly desperate to pick pointless argument (with one poster too I note) are both pro-SNP. Why is that?

    Errr because we're both pro-indy and one of us is SNP ? Have you got your posting accounts mixed up ? ;)
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • Shakethedisease
    Shakethedisease Posts: 7,006 Forumite
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    Now, is there any danger of returning to debate regarding Scotland instead of argument?
    No, because debate by it's definition is argument.
    a formal discussion on a particular matter in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward
    argue about (a subject), especially in a formal manner.
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • Yah_Boo_Sux
    Yah_Boo_Sux Posts: 133 Forumite
    edited 25 May 2017 at 6:53PM
    Errr because we're both pro-indy and one of us is SNP ? Have you got your posting accounts mixed up ? ;)

    Oh looky here, now you try to pick a fight with me too? Incredible! Instead of even refraining from comment you make more accusations!

    (My name is really Lord Hugh Letsa-Vitowt and I monitor data streams for abusive posts. Your posts came up. Is that what you expected?)

    No wonder the SNP are held in such contempt by so many. Shameful behaviour.



    ETA - are you going to wait until I log out again before launching another tirade against me too?
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    I see after many thousands of posts we're still being told Scots will vote to put 500,000 jobs at risk for the price of 120,000. Mind you if everyone's maths in the pro indy support is as good as some on here that's quite believable...
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