The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

Enterprise_1701C

Shakethedisease wrote: »

If I was a betting woman I'd say the Scottish £.

Backed up by?

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

Too many "What Ifs" in that for a cogent argument Shakey.

On the matter of the SNP Referendum, you feel the need to claim that a referendum has been rejected by May, using this to "justify" an action to approach some imaginary school perfect. However under our Constitution, there is no obligation to agree to a request regarding Section 30. This, a!so considering the fact that the Constitution is a Reserved Matter, means that actions to circumscribe the UK Constitution are illegitimate, and thus use of Government Money (which is not SNP money by the way) would be illegal and at the very least subject to judicial process.

We don't have a written constitution string. May can say yay or nay. That's it and she doesn't need a GE to say yay or nay either, she could do it now. But, the Scottish Parliament has said yay already and it's extemely unlikely they will be willing to accept the use of the latest YovGov or Survation figures as any sort of reason for halting democracy in Scotland.

However, May has not refused a Referendum, she is refusing the timing of the request which is 2 to 5 years before it would be appropriate and also before there is clear evidence from the Scottish people of a desire for a refererendum,

The SNP can maybe try again in 5 years if they're still in office.

Not a chance. Sturgeon wants to stay in the Single Market with as little disruption to Scottish interests as possible. So there will be a vote when Brexit talks end and not five years from now. She was about to set out her next steps ( towards a referendum ) before this GE was called, so it doesn't sound like she's planning on holding off on this either. Once this election is over with, expect her back at Bute House within a few weeks holding a very interesting press conference with most of the UK media there breathlessly covering it.

Shakethedisease

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

Backed up by?

Common sense.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Aarghh - I really don't want to be accused of being another "clog-the-thread" poster but I can't let such utter bull poop go.

wotsthat wrote: »

My guess it's not beyond the wit of man to either adopt or set up a currency given most (all?) countries on this fine planet have managed to do so.

Most is correct; all is not.

But did these countries decide beforehand; as in before breaking ties with what was in use prior to independence?
Or did they just suddenly wake up one fine morning and think "Oh bu@@er - what will we use? The Hebrews want their Sheckels back." ????

You see, it would appear to be beyond the wit of the SNP who cannot say.

Arklight

Proud Scots are gritting their teeth and readying themselves for the hard work of independence.


They know it won't be easy. There will be lamentation, poverty, wailing and hard times a plenty before Scotland can stand bold against the world. But they are ready for it.

IveSeenTheLight

cogito wrote: »

The Scots rejected independence in 2014 and I'm quite sure that a big part of what swung it was that the SNP were totally incoherent about what currency they would use should they win the vote.

The currency question was a factor, but by far and away the biggest part that swung it was the mantra that THE only way to stay in the EU, to stay within a single market, was to choose to remain within the UK.

That's plainly not the case now

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Arklight wrote: »

Proud Scots are gritting their teeth and readying themselves for the hard work of independence.


They know it won't be easy. There will be lamentation, poverty, wailing and hard times a plenty before Scotland can stand bold against the world. But they are ready for it.

You are Wolfie Smith and I claim my £5.

"Power to the people!"



You've obviously not read much of the thread.
The majority of Scots still do not want independence.
The most widely-accepted comparison is that the same margins apply now as did in 2014.

Shakethedisease

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

You are Wolfie Smith and I claim my £5.

"Power to the people!"



You've obviously not read much of the thread.
The majority of Scots still do not want independence.
The most widely-accepted comparison is that the same margins apply now as did in 2014.

It's not whether a majority of Scots do not want independence now that's in question though. It's whether they still won't want it after leaving the EU, the Single Market and facing another possible decade of Conservatives like May in charge when 2019 comes around. <---- That's the question which needs answered.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Shakethedisease wrote: »

It's not whether a majority of Scots do not want independence now that's in question though. It's whether they still won't want it after leaving the EU, the Single Market and facing another possible decade of Conservatives like May in charge when 2019 comes around. <---- That's the question which needs answered.

We have been around and around this point in circles over more than a few pages very recently.
Are you really going to attempt a new cycle of the same old same old?

A_Pict_In_A_Past_Life

From this:

Shakethedisease wrote: »

If I was a betting woman I'd say the Scottish £.

To this:

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

Backed up by?

The reply?

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Common sense.

Another "not a clue" post.
Here is what a "backed currency" is:
http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/backed-currency.html

Whose value has a direct correspondence with the value of a commodity (such as gold), whether or not it is redeemable in that commodity on demand.

Much though you may value your own common sense Shakey I don't think it will have quite the same value on world markets.