The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

fun4everyone

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Nothing the leave campaign offered can be delivered upon. There is no £350 million a week. There will be no reduction in immigration. We will be worse off financially. The UK will break up. It is not possible to sign any trade deals more advantageous than the ones we have now.

Totally agree. The lack of understanding about Scotland from the Leave campaign is staggering also. Frankly for the first time in my life I am totally embarrassed to be British.


I actually don't believe Article 50 will ever be invoked because what you say is right, it will not just be us breaking from the European Union, but it will lead to the break up of our union also. Absolute suicide. They will just keep kicking it down the street until a party with a mandate to stay in the EU is elected in Westminster.

ruggedtoast

fun4everyone wrote: »

Totally agree. The lack of understanding about Scotland from the Leave campaign is staggering also. Frankly for the first time in my life I am totally embarrassed to be British.


I actually don't believe Article 50 will ever be invoked because what you say is right, it will not just be us breaking from the European Union, but it will lead to the break up of our union also. Absolute suicide. They will just keep kicking it down the street until a party with a mandate to stay in the EU is elected in Westminster.

I agree. I think that the government is probably begging the EU on their hands and knees for something, no matter how marginal and insignificant, that they can take back to London that will look like a concession.

I suspect they will then say that that has materially changed our relationship and kick the can.

fun4everyone

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I agree. I think that the government is probably begging the EU on their hands and knees for something, no matter how marginal and insignificant, that they can take back to London that will look like a concession.

Again agreed. That strategy has been used before, am I right in thinking specifically the Cuban missile crisis? Either way it is smart and would work.

Generali

fun4everyone wrote: »

Totally agree. The lack of understanding about Scotland from the Leave campaign is staggering also. Frankly for the first time in my life I am totally embarrassed to be British.


I actually don't believe Article 50 will ever be invoked because what you say is right, it will not just be us breaking from the European Union, but it will lead to the break up of our union also. Absolute suicide. They will just keep kicking it down the street until a party with a mandate to stay in the EU is elected in Westminster.

I'm an equity analyst living in Sydney and we Brits are a laughing stock.

I had someone stop me in the street as I left the ferry on the way home this evening and ask me !!!!!! was going on.

CLAPTON

Generali wrote: »

I'm an equity analyst living in Sydney and we Brits are a laughing stock.

I had someone stop me in the street as I left the ferry on the way home this evening and ask me !!!!!! was going on.

given that you voted to leave the safety of the EU, I trust you gave them a balanced view of why a nation might want to control its own taxes and laws

ruggedtoast

CLAPTON wrote: »

given that you voted to leave the safety of the EU, I trust you gave them a balanced view of why a nation might want to control its own taxes and laws

Australia would pi££ its pant$ if the EU offered to it accession rights.

Thrugelmir

ruggedtoast wrote: »

We export more to Luxembourg than we do to India.

Does that include Belgium?

Thrugelmir

fun4everyone wrote: »

The lack of understanding about Scotland from the Leave campaign is staggering also. .

No one down here particularly cares about Scotland. As there was always going to be another vote when the time was right. Best if we go our separate ways.

CLAPTON

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Australia would pi££ its pant$ if the EU offered to it accession rights.

is that the same reaction you have for Turkey joining the EU.
I don't think you ever did have the courage to say what your view of unrestricted immigration is

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Thrugelmir wrote: »

No one down here particularly cares about Scotland. As there was always going to be another vote when the time was right. Best if we go our separate ways.

No that's not true, I care for one.

But that does not mean that I buy into this bleating by Sturgeon and her Westminster Collective that there is some sort of Democratic shortfall and Scotland being dragged out of the EU against its will.

As a result of their own Referendum Scotland is part of the UK for a generation and as such the democratic process is that according to the majority of the people in the UK, not a region of it and not (very unfortunately) the voter living in my house.

Had it been the case that England had voted to leave but the Scottish votes had been sufficient to tip the balance towards Remain, I just can't imagine there would have been a similar fuss in England claiming that democracy had not been served because "England was stuck in the EU against her will". (Personally I wish that had been the case by the way).

A past post of (forget who) for the SNP lot reposted some sort of spiteful smiley cartoon showing difference possible outcomes: The smiley for the above scenario gave a big fat grinning smiley, a telling indicator of the shallowness of the SNP protestations.

Sturgeon will find (no doubt she knows already) that she can do nothing for her misbegotten cause on this EU matter, the strategy, quite obviously, is to start again collecting manufactured and imaginary whinges.