The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

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IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Admittedly I've not seen all of the PMQ's. but of the ones I did see, I found the SNP in Westminster were far more effective in holding the government to account than LAbour did.

So I disagree with you that there presence has not been constructive.

Really, the politics of recent years should support greater desire and need for proportional representation. Would you agree with that?

Incidentally, I am fully aware that proportional representation in Westminster would mean less seats for the SNP

I've looked at lot of those things and my observation that only occasionally is there a constructive question raised by the SNP maybe 5 to 10%. The rest is nasty minded whingeing of no value whatsoever. Even Corbyn has better points.

mollycat

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Same old really. Some posters think we're having a referendum next month and not a General Election. Shaka is posting huge big slightly fuzzy pics up of every single bit of anti-SNP stuff he/she can find. Molly thinks it's hugely popular to start calling me grandma like it's some kind of weirdo affliction I have to be ashamed of.

Nothing new

Just noticed this rubbish

You disclosed you were a grandmother to help validate a point you were making; I then referred to you in the way I did in an obviously jovial way complete with smiley face. (Whilst disclosing personal details of myself in an unguarded way)

So ,are you deliberately trying to discredit my contribution my by making false assumptions about the content of my posts?

Or to attribute some sinister view of normality, (grandmotherhood), to myself in an effort to smear?

If you are simply the oversensitive sort and there is no "spin"to this, I apologise.

Apologies also to others for going off topic; I think the casual twisting of what others say is worthy of comment.

Right, back to the Nationalist vote falling off a cliff!

mollycat

.string. wrote: »

I've looked at lot of those things and my observation that only occasionally is there a constructive question raised by the SNP maybe 5 to 10%. The rest is nasty minded whingeing of no value whatsoever. Even Corbyn has better points.

Agree 100%.

An absolute embarrassment in terms of behaviour and content of contribution.

Mostly come over as bitter, grudge fuelled, aggressive individuals who wear their ignorance like a badge of honour.

The impression they give of Scots to the rUK populace is one of extreme negativity; this of course is a tactic....behave in a way that alienates us from the rest of the UK, weakening rUK voters resolve to reject the policies of division and calls for a further referendum.

Any Scot who watches this lot at PMQ's and feels anything other than shame needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

To think we discarded decent politicians for this lot; tragic.

IveSeenTheLight

.string. wrote: »

From the link, she has delayed her plans until after June 8th

And she said (quoting from that link - other links can be found on the subject)

"Ms Sturgeon’s initial reaction was to say the 8 June vote was a chance to “reinforce” her mandate for a second referendum."

The initial reaction was maybe stating it was a chance to reinforce the mandate for independence, but have since "toned it down" and focus on what the election should be about which is the policies which the parties are

It's the Conservatives that are pushing Independence as the main agenda in Scotland.
They are using the fear factor again as opposed to promoting their policies;)

IveSeenTheLight

mollycat wrote: »

To think we discarded decent politicians for this lot; tragic.

Which decent politicians are you referring to?

Shakethedisease

Shaka_Zulu wrote: »

The party only ever has one real priority, and that is winning independence. All else is a means to end. It is utterly obsessed, but the majority of Scottish voters who do not share the obsession have started to notice that rather than the Nationalists offering technocratic devolved competence, as promised, they instead serve up worse than mediocre fare.

https://reaction.life/nicola-sturgeon-snp-unravelling-rapidly/

More rabid anti-SNP bloggers online opinion pieces presented as fact. Can you not just take bits of it out instead of posting the whole thing ?

Plus the Marr show. He concentrated 95% of the interview on devolved matters rather than the election. Don't think we haven't noticed either. Jim Murphy tried the same tactics in 2015.

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

Exactly right - she has in effect admitted that the GE is highly relevant to the referendum issue

Indyref2: Nicola Sturgeon delays setting out referendum plans

This GE is hugely relevant to the referendum issue. But she meant the Brexit one.

NICOLA Sturgeon will demand a place at the Brexit negotiating table if she wins a majority of Scottish seats at the General Election and will claim her victory is a mandate for her plan to keep Scotland in Europe.

The UK Government has rejected the Scottish Government’s “confusing” proposal to keep Scotland in the single market after the UK leaves – so Ms Sturgeon will put her plan to the people on June 8.
The SNP leader reaffirmed her determination to hold a second independence referendum once the terms of Brexit emerge, but said the General Election result should be seen as a mandate for her “compromise” proposal to keep Scotland inside the UK and the EU in the meantime.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15285904.Nicola_Sturgeon_will_demand_place_at_Brexit_negotiating_table_if_SNP_wins_majority_at_General_Election/


She's cheekily using May's line about strengthening her hand in Brexit talks, but for Scotland.

cogito

Shakethedisease wrote: »

More rabid anti-SNP bloggers online opinion pieces presented as fact.

Wow. Substitute pro-SNP for anti-SNP and you could be talking about yourself.

kabayiri

Shakethedisease wrote: »

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She's cheekily using May's line about strengthening her hand in Brexit talks, but for Scotland.

We already have a Brexit minister; one who has a PM aiming to strengthen her position using the upcoming GE.

We don't need Sturgeon at the negotiating table. She isn't a negotiator and she isn't interested in 92% of the UK population.

If more Scottish voters choose Tory in these elections they will be doing so because they believe in the need to strengthen May's position. We shall easily see if they gain seats.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Shakethedisease wrote: »

I'm alone on here yes. But you still didn't answer the question I asked as to what you think is going to happen with those dozen Tory MP's ?

"What is going to happen with those dozen Tory MP's ?"
Why, the very same thing that happens with every other elected MP of course.
Only these will be Tory MP's not SNP ones.
Do you really need a description of what an MP does?


Will we see a return to the days of 2010 and earlier Shakey, when the SNP held few seats in Westminster?