Allegations from neighbour

Gavin83

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

Sounds to me she is of the sort that loves causing commotion but cant handle confrontation.


Its easy in these cases, get up in her face, clench your fists and only move index finger and thumb to make a gun sign point extremely close to her face an tell her simply if she don't stop the BS and keep telling her kids to be nasty to your kids then you'll show HER how nasty You can be and that you've stayed quiet for a long time because you cant be arsed with her but now your to the point that giving her a kicking would just be satisfying and her calling the police and getting you arrested would give you peace and quiet from her BS for once while your being held for affray. If her partner comes out tell him harshly to just do one because he too stupid to argue.


people like this only respond to simple actions and live off being reported to police and the head teacher and the like and live off being the center of the issues for entertainment but cant handle the confrontations about their BS as they fall to pieces with the fear and adrenalin pumping through their veins and once that happens they tend to shy away from it and find a different victim to pester.


We had so called friends we fell out with who were storing my wedding things in her house for us, when we fell out she started to threaten to sell our stuff and when asked for it via messages she would say were busy right now, were out, were too tired to pull them out right now, then it went silent. So the next day the wife went up to collect them in person, and she said that she wanted some stuff that we had returned back, so my wife took them back to her but she still refused to give the wedding stuff back, then started calling names and threatening her and laughing that were weak and couldn't do anything about it and that they would tear us a new one if we tried.
This made me a little angry, so I went up and ask politely for them, was to no, then i asked again, and got laughed at, then i asked a little more forcefully and was continually laughed at, then i told her i would give her 10 mins to get the stuff or ill come in through the door or window and her partner ran out to confront me and i promptly put him on his backside, then told her to get the stuff ready in 10 mins or come through the door give him ( pointing at him sparko on the floor) round 2. less than 10 mins later, i got my stuff back with an apology!

Depends where you are and who your against I guess. There are plenty of places where he'd have just come out with a knife, along with half his family and they'd have just stabbed you to death instead. Not really sure it's worth it in this case.

Person_one

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

Sounds to me she is of the sort that loves causing commotion but cant handle confrontation.


Its easy in these cases, get up in her face, clench your fists and only move index finger and thumb to make a gun sign point extremely close to her face an tell her simply if she don't stop the BS and keep telling her kids to be nasty to your kids then you'll show HER how nasty You can be and that you've stayed quiet for a long time because you cant be arsed with her but now your to the point that giving her a kicking would just be satisfying and her calling the police and getting you arrested would give you peace and quiet from her BS for once while your being held for affray. If her partner comes out tell him harshly to just do one because he too stupid to argue.


people like this only respond to simple actions and live off being reported to police and the head teacher and the like and live off being the center of the issues for entertainment but cant handle the confrontations about their BS as they fall to pieces with the fear and adrenalin pumping through their veins and once that happens they tend to shy away from it and find a different victim to pester.


We had so called friends we fell out with who were storing my wedding things in her house for us, when we fell out she started to threaten to sell our stuff and when asked for it via messages she would say were busy right now, were out, were too tired to pull them out right now, then it went silent. So the next day the wife went up to collect them in person, and she said that she wanted some stuff that we had returned back, so my wife took them back to her but she still refused to give the wedding stuff back, then started calling names and threatening her and laughing that were weak and couldn't do anything about it and that they would tear us a new one if we tried.
This made me a little angry, so I went up and ask politely for them, was to no, then i asked again, and got laughed at, then i asked a little more forcefully and was continually laughed at, then i told her i would give her 10 mins to get the stuff or ill come in through the door or window and her partner ran out to confront me and i promptly put him on his backside, then told her to get the stuff ready in 10 mins or come through the door give him ( pointing at him sparko on the floor) round 2. less than 10 mins later, i got my stuff back with an apology!

Well that's a very helpful (and completely sane) response.

atrixblue.-MFR-.

some people just don't understand, the point I was making is that some people LIVE OFF the commotion, so the more you report it to authorities the more they get a kick out it, the only thing they understand is the same mentality and when executed rightly they leave you alone.

selloptape

Sounds awful OP, did you get a chance to talk to the other people she kicked off with?

Pollycat

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

some people just don't understand, the point I was making is that some people LIVE OFF the commotion, so the more you report it to authorities the more they get a kick out it, the only thing they understand is the same mentality and when executed rightly they leave you alone.

Some people understand that you used violence to resolve a situation.
'Executing' what you describe is just not 'rightly'.
It is against the law - and I will say again that you are lucky that you weren't arrested for the assault you seem proud of.

atrixblue.-MFR-.

Pollycat wrote: »

Some people understand that you used violence to resolve a situation.
'Executing' what you describe is just not 'rightly'.
It is against the law - and I will say again that you are lucky that you weren't arrested for the assault you seem proud of.

lol a guys runs out to you with the intention of harming you is hardly what I would call greeting you with the intention to shaking hands and making friends. But until you've been put in this situation you poke at it with all the wrongs you want it wont bother me one bit as it shows me you've never been privileged to being in that situation or the OP's.


like I said. some people thrive on being center of commotion the police being called and the action of having being the center of attention is how they live and thrive to make other lives a misery the only time they know they have gone too far is when the victim fights back at their level and this was my point an other points on here not just me alone.

Pollycat

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

lol a guys runs out to you with the intention of harming you is hardly what I would call greeting you with the intention to shaking hands and making friends. But until you've been put in this situation you poke at it with all the wrongs you want it wont bother me one bit as it shows me you've never been privileged to being in that situation or the OP's.

Priviliged? :rotfl:

What you did was still against the law - regardless of how you wish to dress it up!

atrixblue.-MFR-.

Pollycat wrote: »

Priviliged? :rotfl:

What you did was still against the law - regardless of how you wish to dress it up!

Regardless on how you wish to make an issue out of this, your wrong as case law already exists for this this is one snippet there are many others this is an excerpt from the CPS guidance, although your well within your rights to hold that opinion, http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/ The basic principles of self-defence are set out in (Palmer v R, [1971] AC 814); approved in R v McInnes, 55 Cr App R 551:

"It is both good law and good sense that a man who is attacked may defend himself. It is both good law and good sense that he may do, but only do, what is reasonably necessary."

(R v Balogun [2000] 1 Archbold News 3)

...A man who is attacked or believes that he is about to be attacked may use such force as is both necessary and reasonable in order to defend himself. If that is what he does then he acts lawfully.

I was lawful and legal in my actions, and before you go the "you must retreat rout" perhaps looking that up as that's not a definition for self defense but merely a + for guidance but cannot be solely relied upon.


the privileged bit went over your head. :T

Pollycat

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

Regardless on how you wish to make an issue out of this, your wrong as case law already exists for this this is one snippet there are many others this is an excerpt from the CPS guidance, although your well within your rights to hold that opinion, http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/ The basic principles of self-defence are set out in (Palmer v R, [1971] AC 814); approved in R v McInnes, 55 Cr App R 551:

"It is both good law and good sense that a man who is attacked may defend himself. It is both good law and good sense that he may do, but only do, what is reasonably necessary."

(R v Balogun [2000] 1 Archbold News 3)

...A man who is attacked or believes that he is about to be attacked may use such force as is both necessary and reasonable in order to defend himself. If that is what he does then he acts lawfully.

I was lawful and legal in my actions, and before you go the "you must retreat rout" perhaps looking that up as that's not a definition for self defense but merely a + for guidance but cannot be solely relied upon.


the privileged bit went over your head. :T

Putting someone 'on his backside sparko on the floor' may not have been considered 'what is reasonably necessary'.

I sincerely hope the OP is not going to take your advice.

atrixblue.-MFR-.

Pollycat wrote: »

Putting someone 'on his backside sparko on the floor' may not have been considered 'what is reasonably necessary'.

I sincerely hope the OP is not going to take your advice.

I'm sorry you feel that way, Your entitled to your opinion OP is entitled to walk away with the their own.


Again ill point you back to the use of reasonable force criteria on the CPS website provided to you above in regards to reasonable force and the time I had to react to someone running at me to harm me.


This isn't a question or debate about what is constituted as reasonable force, I nor you can decide that factor only a judge can but I can say I had a lot criteria for the CPS to satisfy that I DIDNT use reasonable force rather than the other way round if it ever went that far because I can only reply to your speculations and opinions and nothing factual.


again you can keep plugging away at trying to make an issue out of this its not bothering me in the slightest I have all the time in the world to respond to you with facts, but please bare in mind i'm responding to YOU making issues out of my posts and trying to pick at them without success which has led this thread off the beaten track for the OP somewhat spectacularly.


I'm willing to just let this drop as I keep saying as I am not bothered by whether you carryon nitpicking at my posts, ill gladly just reply with fact rather than opinions and speculations of MAY and MIGHTS which you have been reduced to in order to try and prove yourself right.


OP I am sorry for making a post that caused someone to try and derail your thread, I apologise to others also for my part in replying to them to defend my actions, perhaps my description of facing up to a bully is not the best, and my main point was and always has been! Some people live off the rush of causing trouble and being the center of attention and love authorities coming to chat with them knowing its a NON STARTER for arrest or warnings anyway, plus that's how they gather information relating to their actions are getting to the victim.


Perhaps having a stern word with the perp (my original advice) may also be leak of info for the perp as to how you the situation has got you but some people (bullies) only understand the same mentality to stop their actions any further (my original advice).