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Allegations from neighbour

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  • moneyistooshorttomention
    moneyistooshorttomention Posts: 17,940 Forumite
    edited 11 March 2016 at 10:56PM
    Oh dear.

    Wishing you luck with that - hope you do catch them. Guess you have a camera at the ready (if only a mobile phone one) to take photos of them at it.

    As they keep moving your security light sensor - is it possible for you to set up a hidden security camera permanently "on duty" at some point they wont even realise you have one set-up?

    These characters may have you sat up some nights in a row waiting to catch them in the act - hence a permanently set-up security camera doing the job for you would save you on lost sleep.

    Neighbours can be tricky if they've taken it into their head to deliberately keep moving outside possessions of yours around - voice of experience and I would sometimes find it had happened several times in a day - but I never could manage to catch them at it. Also some vandalism they committed on an outside possession of mine funnily enough happened at a time they probably realised I would be out for several hours at a stint (as it was whilst I was at a regular thing it happened). But because there was 1% of doubt/needing proof it was their doing - then I couldn't take action based on my 99% certainty it was down to them.

    Definitely stick to your guns about refusing to even think of moving. Why should you be the one to do so - as SHE is the one with the problem iyswim?
  • calicocat
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    Get a couple of cameras put in. One covert, one not, and one fake. Also a system where it records it for you.


    I have done this before, it's quite funny seeing someone playing up to what they think is the camera, when the are actually being recorded via another spot.

    If you think she is likely to say/shout/intimidate you verbally when next out and about minding your own business....keep your phone ready to press record and record it all.

    Also, is it possible to rig up an alarm on the sensor so it goes off if moved......i'm thinking one of the cheap ones you can just buy and do yourself. It wouldn't do anything other than give them a shock due to the noise they omit.
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  • RuthnJasper
    RuthnJasper Posts: 4,033 Forumite
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    Sorry been manic. My cars now been damaged (wing mirror smashed) and my security light sensor keeps being moved on a nightly basis.

    Staying up tonight to see of I can catch them.

    I've managed to get hold of the police, they said they can go and talk to her but 'don't retaliate' - have said maybe another meeting at school.

    I won't even comtemplate moving. I've been in this area for years, moved into my house just over a year ago and it's mine (no mortgage etc) - she can crawl over my dead body before I leave


    Sorry to hear that she is descending even further to this sort of nonsense (if it was her). I'd be following up on Calicocat's advice on CCTV - the kit can be hired for a short while, so no outright purchase needed.


    Best wishes. x
  • duchy
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    DesiBadBoy wrote: »
    Move house. Send your children to a school where these idiots don't go.

    People say stand up to bullies..........my perception is you've nothing to gain. If you move however, you'll be free of the BS and your children will be happier. Bullied children only do well if they are strong (like me).

    Great advice

    Teach your kids to run away when things get tough (not to mention spending thousands in moving costs like estate agent fees).
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  • pigpen
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    duchy wrote: »
    Great advice

    Teach your kids to run away when things get tough (not to mention spending thousands in moving costs like estate agent fees).


    and possibly moving to an area with 3 neighbours who are just as crazy as this one neighbour!
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  • duchy
    duchy Posts: 19,511 Forumite
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    If she keeps moving stuff put some never drying paint on it (can't remember the name of it) so next time she does it she gets it on her. It's a b*gger to remove .

    If she is trespassing then yes put up a covert camera (and a dummy one too) and let her hang herself and then get a non molestation order.

    (and next time your kid falls out with another kid don't get involved -the kids soon get over it but parents tend to escalate)
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  • Imagine having the time and energy to spend pointlessly harrassing people like this! What a sad individual.

    Hard I know, but try and remain calm and serene, visibly indifferent to her (whilst carefully recording every incident and investing in some cameras as suggested). Remember that what she really wants is a reaction, to justify her own idiocy. Nothing will infuriate her more than indifference, and if she gets reckless in order to provoke a reaction, hopefully she will be careless and caught.
    They are an EYESORES!!!!
  • Mimi_Arc_en_ciel
    Mimi_Arc_en_ciel Posts: 4,851 Forumite
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    edited 20 April 2016 at 1:23PM
    Would you believe this is STILL going on

    So - She was pulled up about the accusations by the police, and denied it. Was told to leave us alone.

    We've been on holiday for Easter, came back and within 20 minutes my daughter was upset by her children. Sent an email to school about it.

    The following day the kids were playing in the street so my DD went out (The mother had gone out in the car, dad was watching them), they came up to DD and said that she had better "get off" the street because they cant play together. DD asked why and was told "Our mum hates your mum" which upset my DD and she came in. I sent her back out to play but then the mother came in and was screetching at her kids to get in because DD was out playing.

    The girl from the family (who DD originally fell out with) wants to play with DD, she's told school this but the mother won't allow it (the mother told school they are to "ban" them playing together, school have refused)

    I really don't have a problem with them playing (as long as they are playing they aren't arguing) but I don't see how I can "help" matters. I've suggested to DD it may be better to concentrate on her other friends.

    It's now been ongoing for 7 months.... Anyone know the number for "neighbours from hell" ;)
  • atrixblue.-MFR-.
    atrixblue.-MFR-. Posts: 6,887 Forumite
    edited 23 April 2016 at 12:56AM
    Sounds to me she is of the sort that loves causing commotion but cant handle confrontation.


    Its easy in these cases, get up in her face, clench your fists and only move index finger and thumb to make a gun sign point extremely close to her face an tell her simply if she don't stop the BS and keep telling her kids to be nasty to your kids then you'll show HER how nasty You can be and that you've stayed quiet for a long time because you cant be arsed with her but now your to the point that giving her a kicking would just be satisfying and her calling the police and getting you arrested would give you peace and quiet from her BS for once while your being held for affray. If her partner comes out tell him harshly to just do one because he too stupid to argue.


    people like this only respond to simple actions and live off being reported to police and the head teacher and the like and live off being the center of the issues for entertainment but cant handle the confrontations about their BS as they fall to pieces with the fear and adrenalin pumping through their veins and once that happens they tend to shy away from it and find a different victim to pester.


    We had so called friends we fell out with who were storing my wedding things in her house for us, when we fell out she started to threaten to sell our stuff and when asked for it via messages she would say were busy right now, were out, were too tired to pull them out right now, then it went silent. So the next day the wife went up to collect them in person, and she said that she wanted some stuff that we had returned back, so my wife took them back to her but she still refused to give the wedding stuff back, then started calling names and threatening her and laughing that were weak and couldn't do anything about it and that they would tear us a new one if we tried.
    This made me a little angry, so I went up and ask politely for them, was to no, then i asked again, and got laughed at, then i asked a little more forcefully and was continually laughed at, then i told her i would give her 10 mins to get the stuff or ill come in through the door or window and her partner ran out to confront me and i promptly put him on his backside, then told her to get the stuff ready in 10 mins or come through the door give him ( pointing at him sparko on the floor) round 2. less than 10 mins later, i got my stuff back with an apology!
  • Pollycat
    Pollycat Posts: 36,224 Forumite
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    Sounds to me she is of the sort that loves causing commotion but cant handle confrontation.


    Its easy in these cases, get up in her face, clench your fists and only move index finger and thumb to make a gun sign point extremely close to her face an tell her simply if she don't stop the BS and keep telling her kids to be nasty to your kids then you'll show HER how nasty You can be and that you've stayed quiet for a long time because you cant be arsed with her but now your to the point that giving her a kicking would just be satisfying and her calling the police and getting you arrested would give you peace and quiet from her BS for once while your being held for affray. If her partner comes out tell him harshly to just do one because he too stupid to argue.


    people like this only respond to simple actions and live off being reported to police and the head teacher and the like and live off being the center of the issues for entertainment but cant handle the confrontations about their BS as they fall to pieces with the fear and adrenalin pumping through their veins and once that happens they tend to shy away from it and find a different victim to pester.


    We had so called friends we fell out with who were storing my wedding things in her house for us, when we fell out she started to threaten to sell our stuff and when asked for it via messages she would say were busy right now, were out, were too tired to pull them out right now, then it went silent. So the next day the wife went up to collect them in person, and she said that she wanted some stuff that we had returned back, so my wife took them back to her but she still refused to give the wedding stuff back, then started calling names and threatening her and laughing that were weak and couldn't do anything about it and that they would tear us a new one if we tried.
    This made me a little angry, so I went up and ask politely for them, was to no, then i asked again, and got laughed at, then i asked a little more forcefully and was continually laughed at, then i told her i would give her 10 mins to get the stuff or ill come in through the door or window and her partner ran out to confront me and i promptly put him on his backside, then told her to get the stuff ready in 10 mins or come through the door give him ( pointing at him sparko on the floor) round 2. less than 10 mins later, i got my stuff back with an apology!
    I'm not sure I agree with the action proposed in this post.

    I think you were very lucky not to see the inside of a police cell.

    Regardless of the provocation, putting someone 'on his backside sparko on the floor' is assault.
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