brexit and us

CEON44

I honestly believe its a question that most ordinary folk dont really have a clue how to answer. Even people in the know arent sure what way to go so how on earth will the man in the street be able to make up his mind in a proper way. We need loads more info from both sides rather than the rows and name calling. Cameron telling Corbyn to get a decent suit and fix his tie was ridiculous. Its too serious a vote to get wrong

qwert_yuiop

....so that's every party but the dup. Never, never, never...well, all right - yes?
It could get interesting.

belfastgirl23

As far as I'm concerned, an out vote just means that we leave ourselves vulnerable to our own government. We all know the conservative government are mainly interested in feathering their own nests and those of the multimillionaires, want to reduce the rights of workers, reduce commitments to the environment etc. I understand these things cost money but the benefits they bring are enormous.

I'm really surprised anyone in Northern Ireland would think of voting out. Even a basic walk around any town centre will show a plethora of EC funded buildings, roads, projects. I think together with the withdrawal of money from GB, we (in NI) are royally stuffed if we exit Europe.

It's also distressing that such hatred is being whipped up about migrants in the whole issue. For me it's a sleight of hand - hey look over here at these migrants taking your jobs - when in fact it's the UK gvt bringing in the legislation to allow for zero hours contracts etc which makes it economically unfeasible for nationals to take these sorts of jobs. In this situation of course the people to blame are those desperate enough to take the jobs, not the people who create the low pay jobs to start with. And of course exiting the EC will create a whole lot more of these kinds of jobs, I guess the hope is though that by then local nationals will be so desperate they'll be prepared to take them.

Makes me despair at times.

qwert_yuiop

Migrants are a method of maintaining a downward pressure on wages. Plenty of them are not from the eu, so an exit will make no difference. Public funds are used to deal with the difficulties caused by migration - another subsidy to industry.

oldhand

@Belfastgirl,Many of those buildings and projects funded by the EU are just a case of getting our own money back.The EU acts like a badly run bank whereby the UK gives in billions each year and receives back far less at the whim of unelected chancers who run it.
Today on the borders of greece,turkey and in calais tens,soon to become hundreds of thousands of migrants are queuing to enter europe and when they get in many of their number will be heading for UK shores.Even in "our wee country" you can see the effects when you try to make an appointment for your doctor or go to any A&E looking for treatment especially if you need a bed.
We have many thousands on the waiting list for housing without adding to it,and even Moy Park try as they do cant employ them all.
I will be voting to get out so that we may get back control of our laws over who can come here without the EU telling us they can stay as soon as they set foot in the country and can then bring their extended families also as they are entitled by EU decree to a family life........

qwert_yuiop

The migrants want to go to Germany. An amazingly generous 20 places were offered by the government down south and they weren't taken up.

It's been pointed out before, but it's well recognised that any migrant on low wage is a net drain on the national economy. Isn't it interesting that the highest expenditure in TB drugs in the uk is in dungannon? When I went to work in New Zealand, I had to get a chest X-ray to show I was tb free, and had to be swabbed (yes, unpleasant) for mrsa. None of that here of course, and you can't blame the eu.