New Scottish Power Tariff

Pincher

Online Fixed Price Energy April 2017 v2

2.270p
10.335p

Online Fixed Price Energy May 2017

2.252p
10.268p

Microscopic variation, but a good test of the WithFreedom claim.
i.e. £60 exit penalty does not apply to internal switch.


New electric car is charging overnight, so the lower electricity unit rate is welcome, too.

redux

Pincher wrote: »

New electric car is charging overnight, so the lower electricity unit rate is welcome, too.

Have you done any sums on switching to dual rate electricity?

I don't even know if they charge a fee for installing the meters.

makeyourdaddyproud

Pincher wrote: »

Online Fixed Price Energy April 2017 v2

2.270p
10.335p

Online Fixed Price Energy May 2017

2.252p
10.268p

Now those rates are getting me wet

Pincher

redux wrote: »

Have you done any sums on switching to dual rate electricity?

I don't even know if they charge a fee for installing the meters.

Of course I thought about Economy 7, and it's unlikely I will.


There are free charging points to check out first.
The selection nearby is not very promising so far, though.


Chargemaster is aptly named, they charge you money.
Can't use the Tesla Superchargers.
Have managed to use Ecotricity for free, but they say Rapid charging is bad for the battery.

Richie-from-the-Boro

Tonight - E7 - March 2016 bill - HELP BEAT CANCER FIXED PRICE ENERGY JANUARY 2018 ONLINE

- all actual 6 weekly meter reads
- stable comfortable & continual extravagance 22°C
- Your actual usage in the last 12 months - Night 4,143.710 kWh
- Your actual usage in the last 12 months - Day 4,126.261 kWh
- 50% day / night ratio, keep them full of cheap stuff, bask in 22°C
- reduce the °C, continue to keep them full of cheap stuff, pocket the £ difference

Pincher

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

Tonight - E7 - March 2016 bill - HELP BEAT CANCER FIXED PRICE ENERGY JANUARY 2018 ONLINE

I was on the Help Beat Cancer tariff, albeit not the E7 version.
Back on the one year tariff again.


I'll see how it goes first. If I had the Nissan Leaf sized battery, there is not much choice but to charge all night. I have the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV 12kWh battery, which claims only a 32 miles range, so it takes less time to charge. There is a £500 subsidy to put in a domestic charging point (missed the £700 subsidy by a week, damn), which is a day time top-up proposition, so no good for E7.

System

Pincher wrote: »

There is a £500 subsidy to put in a domestic charging point (missed the £700 subsidy by a week, damn), which is a day time top-up proposition, so no good for E7.

I am not sure that I understand your post. An EV charging point is nothing more than a charger with a meter connected to your existing energy supply. There are no tariff limitations and many people charge their EVs overnight on an E7 tariff. The question that all EV owners have to ask is whether the balance of day/night usage makes an E7 tariff worthwhile?

Pincher

Hengus wrote: »

I am not sure that I understand your post. An EV charging point is nothing more than a charger with a meter connected to your existing energy supply. There are no tariff limitations and many people charge their EVs overnight on an E7 tariff. The question that all EV owners have to ask is whether the balance of day/night usage makes an E7 tariff worthwhile?

For the 100 miles range battery, the electricity used is much higher, and so the case for Economy 7 is compelling.



For the smaller battery, I prefer to top-up during the day.


Using the domestic socket, I can charge at 10amp, which is around 5 hours.


Putting in a 16amp dedicated charge point, a full charge takes 2.5 hours. About £300 to install, after the £500 subsidy.


Annoyingly, the PHEV is incompatible with the 32amp (7kW) charging point, even though I can install one for £95 extra.


Ideally, I want them to come up with a 32amp domestic charging point, that I can plug into the PHEV, which enables a full charge in roughly one hour.


I use 5,000kWh a year anyway, before the PHEV came along. I will pay more for this if I go on Economy 7. If I didn't have gas, I wouldn't think twice, but I like my convenience.

Richie-from-the-Boro

Hengus wrote: »

I am not sure that I understand your post. An EV charging point is nothing more than a charger with a meter connected to your existing energy supply. There are no tariff limitations and many people charge their EVs overnight on an E7 tariff. The question that all EV owners have to ask is whether the balance of day/night usage makes an E7 tariff worthwhile?

Precisely that. Does the % split make it more economic. Many with gas CH and no electric car achieve 50% and use an E7 tariff. Leave emotional inputs and decide where between 30 & 50% your projected split is !.

CashStrapped

Well, June 2017 is out and it is a shocker for my area...

20% increase in tariff price for my usage.

Going from

2.231p per KWH

to

2.701p per KWH

with the same standing charge of 20.55p