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Bought new car, old car uninsured for test drives

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  • Mercdriver wrote: »
    That's not how RTA work though. For example you still need insurance and tax to drive in an Asda car park and if you knock someone's car you still by law have to report it as usual, giving your insurance details to anyone that has reason to ask you for it. So it would make no sense for you to be able to store a car in an Asda car park. In any case many store car parks operate a limited parking time after which there is a charge. Paying PCN's for days will be much more expensive than insuring it.

    People have also been done for DWDCA inside supermarket car parks. Shame it can't be done for how some shoppers push their trollies!

    I said you'd need insurance if it were in a public place.

    For your information, you don't need tax or an mot to drive on a supermarket car park or any other public place that's not a road.
  • Mercdriver
    Mercdriver Posts: 3,898 Forumite
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    I said you'd need insurance if it were in a public place.

    For your information, you don't need tax or an mot to drive on a supermarket car park or any other public place that's not a road.

    I still think it needs clarification. The suggestion that the OP park it in a supermarket car park is not a good one. £35 a day does not a MSE top tip make. Good luck getting permission from a supermarket to keep a car you want to sell within his car park and unless they register the car with Euro Car Parks or whoever else is managing it, they will get multiple tickets and eventually get towed.
  • Mercdriver wrote: »
    It will take someone who really does know (calling AntonyMMM) to state what is defined as private land. If it is accessible to the public then it all gets a bit sticky.

    I would call a supermarket car park private land, but does the law define it as such in relation to Road Traffic Acts etc? My father in law taught his daughters to drive before they were of age in supermarket car parks. It won't have been legal at the time, and I doubt very much that it is now.

    It defines it as a public place. It's not a road but a place the public have access to whether by payment of not.
  • Rover_Driver
    Rover_Driver Posts: 1,520 Forumite
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    edited 13 February 2016 at 9:47PM
    That is one of the problems.

    If the ASDA car park was not a public road, a vehicle could be SORN for vehicle licensing purposes, but would still need to be insured if it is considered to be a public place.
  • Mercdriver wrote: »
    I still think it needs clarification. The suggestion that the OP park it in a supermarket car park is not a good one. £35 a day does not a MSE top tip make.

    What clarification do you need?

    Mot offence committed on a road.
    Vehicle excuse duty offence committed on a road maintainable at public expense.
    Insurance offence committed in a public place.

    That's the law.
  • Mercdriver
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    What clarification do you need?

    Mot offence committed on a road.
    Vehicle excuse duty offence committed on a road maintainable at public expense.
    Insurance offence committed in a public place.

    That's the law.

    Tell me how the OP can get his car to the supermarket car park without extra cost or breaking the law.

    He can't.

    The problem with this forum is that too many people concentrate on arguing the toss rather than actually do anything to help the OP. It becomes a massive willy waving contest. I'm quite happy to be educated as my name isn't Mr Always Right. But lets make sure we have the right information for the OP.
  • Mercdriver wrote: »
    Tell me how the OP can get his car to the supermarket car park without extra cost or breaking the law.

    He can't.

    Well as they haven't got any insurance they can't and as I've already said they need insurance to park it there. I don't know why you're so hung up on it. I was asked for an example of how you can keep a sorn car in a public place. I gave an example. Never said it was cheap, free to get there or wouldn't incur expanse. However it's legal.
  • Mercdriver wrote: »
    Tell me how the OP can get his car to the supermarket car park without extra cost or breaking the law.

    He can't.

    The problem with this forum is that too many people concentrate on arguing the toss rather than actually do anything to help the OP. It becomes a massive willy waving contest. I'm quite happy to be educated as my name isn't Mr Always Right. But lets make sure we have the right information for the OP.

    He info is right so be educated or keep waving your willy.
  • Giggidy
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    Problem solved, didnt have to make a SORN, my partner's insurer, Admiral, have insured it for £45 for 28 days, and will refund the remainder if car is sold in a week, result!
  • Anywhere that's not a road maintainable at public expense.

    Get permission and asda car park.. Will that do you? You vehicle excise licence doesn't pay for that.

    I saw a car get clamped by DVLA for no tax in a private car park of a retail park in Dundee. DVLA can and will recover SORNd vehicles from car parks not owned by local authority.
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