Nice People Thread No. 15, a Cyber Summer

vivatifosi

They are astonishing silver. This one takes the biscuit... two bedrooms, neither of which have windows. It is a really odd shape too:

http://www.galliardhomes.com/studio/off-plan/the-landmark/4126632

It's classed as a studio flat. Presumably because the bedrooms don't have windows.

Out of interest, if there was a fire in the flat and you were asleep in the bedroom, how would you get out?

zagubov

It looks like they're trying to make the flat equivalent of what I think they call single-aspect terraces/back-to-backs? There's better examples like these abito flats in Salford.

cells

vivatifosi wrote: »

They are astonishing silver. This one takes the biscuit... two bedrooms, neither of which have windows. It is a really odd shape too:

http://www.galliardhomes.com/studio/off-plan/the-landmark/4126632

It's classed as a studio flat. Presumably because the bedrooms don't have windows.

Out of interest, if there was a fire in the flat and you were asleep in the bedroom, how would you get out?

probably the same way as you would get out from a flat which has a window in the bedroom....not through the window

Generali

cells wrote: »

probably the same way as you would get out from a flat which has a window in the bedroom....not through the window

A couple of women died in Sydney a few years back trying to escape a fire in a flat by jumping out of the window. It didn't look like they had much choice.

One of my favorite stats is that nobody has died in NSW in over a decade in a housefire where a working smoke detector is fitted.

vivatifosi

cells wrote: »

probably the same way as you would get out from a flat which has a window in the bedroom....not through the window

I wouldn't live somewhere without a second route of escape. It's not just about the route out, it's about raising help. If there was a fire outside the bedroom area and it didn't have a phone in, you'd be passed out from smoke inhalation before anyone realised.

silvercar

New build flats and refurbed blocks all have hard wired smoke alarms.

Doozergirl

I note they're got around building regulations by not putting a door on the 'area', thus making it all one room and therefore still having a window, apparantly.

They'll be using private BC for that. I bet LABC wouldn't let it past them.

These are amazing smoke alarms. I've just fitted 19 into a house. They'll be going in our new house. They talk to you, light your way, warn you before they go off if they think you've burned the dinner. Alert you via app if your house is on fire. Every single one is a CO alarm as well.

You can turn them off via an app.

Bargain at the price of £89.

https://nest.com/uk/smoke-co-alarm/meet-nest-protect/

cells

Generali wrote: »

A couple of women died in Sydney a few years back trying to escape a fire in a flat by jumping out of the window. It didn't look like they had much choice.

Scary and sad

One of my favorite stats is that nobody has died in NSW in over a decade in a housefire where a working smoke detector is fitted.

that is surprising so much so that its probably unlikely.

In the UK fire alarms seem to halve the rate of deaths per fire. 4 per thousand v 8 per thousand and reduce non fatal casualties by 20%. 66 died last year in homes with fire alarms

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/456652/Fire_Statistics_Great_Britain_2013-14___PDF_Version_.pdf

GDB2222

PasturesNew wrote: »

I'd just like one that wasn't scarey to change the battery in - and wasn't all the way up on the ceiling where it can't be reached

If the battery were easily visible from the exterior - maybe on a slide tray or something, so you didn't have to get up there, twist/pull/poke/which? then hold it (while wobbling on the ladder) and remove the old battery/get the new one in, then get it all lined up again and twisted back into position .... before you fell off the ladder from wobbling too much

The trouble with hard-wired systems is you're up the ladder, you've got the new battery in one hand (or your teeth) and you're gripping onto the detector that you've managed to unscrew from the ceiling. Now, while holding that detector fairly close to the ceiling still (it's hard wired remember), you've got to swap the battery out .... and all without dropping the detector or the new battery .... balanced/wobbling.... all the way up there at the ceiling! There's nowhere to "put things down", you have to hold onto everything and think what you're doing and achieve it.

Get one with a ten year battery?

Generali

cells wrote: »

Scary and sad





that is surprising so much so that its probably unlikely.

In the UK fire alarms seem to halve the rate of deaths per fire. 4 per thousand v 8 per thousand and reduce non fatal casualties by 20%. 66 died last year in homes with fire alarms

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/456652/Fire_Statistics_Great_Britain_2013-14___PDF_Version_.pdf

It was a claim on the radio (hard to link to!) and a quick Google says it's crap. Mea culpa.