Nice People Thread No. 15, a Cyber Summer

Pyxis

LydiaJ wrote: »

For me the heat packs have always worked better than ice. I remember walking about with a scarf holding a heat pack to my neck just to get through the few days until the chiropractor could fix me. Often the same object can be used as either hot or cold, but to heat it up you don't need any freezer space!

Heat can be the treatment of choice in some circumstances, and obviously works for you and you have your Chiropractor's agreement, so that's absolutely fine.

However, for an acute low back, it's best to treat it as a sprain. Heat in those circumstances can make things worse, in the same way as you wouldn't put heat on a sprained ankle, etc.
It is always best to use ice packs unless you are advised to use heat or heat and ice alternating, by a Chiropractor /Osteopath etc.

silvercar

Horrific news today.

All family, friends, friends of kids etc are safe. We do know of a couple of people who were at the venue who are unhurt.

To think that when your kids go to a concert, you worry that they will miss the train or drink too much, you don't think that they may not come home!

SingleSue

Pyxis wrote: »

Blimey, Sue! If only you could bottle that, you'd have parents in the thousands queueing up to buy it! You'd make a fortune! :rotfl:

Not sure it's anything I have done to be honest, it's all down to him and his own determination to succeed and prove people wrong.

I only believed in him, he's done all the hard work.

Percy1983

Not sure what to do today, not good news here, I knew 2 of the 22 who have died, they haven't been named in the media yet.

Two friends went to pick up their daughters who are also friends and waited in the foyer, the girls made it home safely but there mothers are never coming home.

Being a photographer I actually took a photo of one of them with there daughter less than a month ago.

My son is only 20 months old so doesn't understand, I wouldn't change him for the world, but I want to change the world for him.

If there's one thing I hope I've shown him its just give love to all.

Sorry to post something so awful, just need to vent somewhere.

Tahlullah

So sorry for your loss Percy.
I am sorry for us all, for today we all lost something we all take for granted in the UK. Safety.

LydiaJ

Percy1983 wrote: »

Not sure what to do today, not good news here, I knew 2 of the 22 who have died, they haven't been named in the media yet.

Two friends went to pick up their daughters who are also friends and waited in the foyer, the girls made it home safely but there mothers are never coming home.

Being a photographer I actually took a photo of one of them with there daughter less than a month ago.

My son is only 20 months old so doesn't understand, I wouldn't change him for the world, but I want to change the world for him.

If there's one thing I hope I've shown him its just give love to all.

Sorry to post something so awful, just need to vent somewhere.

Oh Percy! I'm so sorry for your loss.

Please don't apologise for posting about it - the NP are here to support each other in the bad times just as much as the other things we talk about on here.

Do you know the dads as well? (Or the mums' partners or whatever?) Because if so, you and their other friends may find this leaflet helpful. It's about what to say and what not to say to someone who's lost their partner. In due course (not immediately, of course) you may want to recommend the charity whose website that comes from. I found their "widowed young support weekend" and "widowed young support day" more helpful than I can describe in a post. The couple who run them are the most accepting and supporting people I've ever come across - they have a real gift for making total strangers feel not only welcome but really wanted from the moment they walk in the door. I felt as though they thought I was doing them a favour by letting them look after me!

Any NP or lurkers who know families who've lost children will find "bereaved parent support" services on the same charity's website, and also support services for young adults who've lost a sibling. There are multiple charities who support bereaved children, but that depends on geography, so I can't recommend a specific one.

I would say, however, that getting help for bereaved children is important. Children may appear to be "resilient" and often adults like to persuade themselves that the children are all right, really, but they're not. They're more "absorbent". Imagine dripping water onto a bath sponge - it disappears, but it's still there, building up, deep inside the sponge where you can't see it. Hence why adults who end up in therapy spend most of their time talking about what happened when they were little. Oops - got on my soapbox a bit there. Sorry. I imagine you can guess why society's lack of understanding of the needs of bereaved children is a big deal to me!

Disclaimer: I am a volunteer with the widowed young support services I've linked to. However, I'm not paid, so I don't think this is "advertising" in the way we're not supposed to do on MSE.

ukmaggie45

Dear Percy, rather at a loss for words other than to say how sorry I am.

PasturesNew

Tahlullah wrote: »

So sorry for your loss Percy.

ukmaggie45 wrote: »

Dear Percy, rather at a loss for words other than to say how sorry I am.

I have no words of my own that would be correct, so have quoted the above.



I would say that "every photo is precious", every memory of what they did/said to you, so if you've any photos they've not got/seen, hand them over - and any note should include a personal anecdote if it exists.

SingleSue

Oh Percy, so so sorry x

Pyxis

I know you don't know me, but here's a hug. :A

((((((((((((Percy))))))))))))))