Funding for prison visits problem.

oldhand

ab1982 wrote: »

You ignorant so and so you clearly have never been to Butlins.

I have I was on the escape committee.................;)

ab1982

Guest101 wrote: »

Oh no.... That's such a shame...

Its not really anything to do with being a shame or not. You want someone to leave prison a functioning member of society with as little inclination to re-offend as possible, if the person is able to maintain social relationships during their sentence then surely the existence of some kind of social network would reduce the chances of re-offending.

ryouga

Guest101 wrote: »

Oh no.... Such a shame....

I suppose you are taking the moral highground, instead of giving actual advice.

It seems your attitude is based on ignornace and I bet you assume everyone in prison is evil and took pride in their crime and deserves to rot rather than be rehabilitated.

In reality some like my relative make a mistake after going through a extreme point in his life, his girlfriend was cheating on him, his daughter was disputed to be his so social work refused him access, his best friend died and he snapped and had a moment of madness which he now pays for.

He is in a theraputic wing of prison and his mental health has even got worse over the years as he lost everything, none of his friends wanted anything to do with him after he was arrested even made excuses about it.

So now he is in a small room and left to rot, when he is released he wants to get his life back on track and start fresh, he cant do that if he is just stuck in a small room and no contact with the outside world.

Johnnytwostep

ryouga wrote: »

Joke or ignroance? Its not like the media tells you, the food makes school dinners look like the height of luxury, the cells are around the size of my bathroom with dull light coming through, they "pay" for their tv by renting it weekly and paying for it from their tiny wages i.e full time work for £10 a week and £1 of that is for tv, they can't watch 18 rated movies or play 18 rated games, they can't have clothes sent in so wear tatty clothes.

so they get tv and games consoles, that is more than some people in the real, non criminal world get.

Darksparkle

Poor criminals.

ryouga

Johnnytwostep wrote: »

so they get tv and games consoles, that is more than some people in the real, non criminal world get.

I never said they "get" games consoles.

And even then the shared one is a old PS2 with those games that struggle to sell at 10p, their tvs until recently were manky crts (only got rid of them due to needing digital feed) even then they get about 8 channels on it as they are censored.

Are you trying to say you have never done anything "criminal" in your life no matter how small?

Guest101

ab1982 wrote: »

Its not really anything to do with being a shame or not. You want someone to leave prison a functioning member of society with as little inclination to re-offend as possible, if the person is able to maintain social relationships during their sentence then surely the existence of some kind of social network would reduce the chances of re-offending.

You presume I want them to leave prison...

ryouga

Darksparkle wrote: »

Poor criminals.

Their families are affected too, and also are you saying that only people in prison are bad people/deserve no help and everyone who isn't in prison is pure angelic?

ab1982

Guest101 wrote: »

You presume I want them to leave prison...

I did yes, are you advocating life sentences without possibility of release for all criminal offences then?

ryouga

Guest101 wrote: »

You presume I want them to leave prison...

You mean you want the taxpayers money to pay for them? Surely you want them to get better so they can pay their own way?

Shot yourself in the foot there.