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  • Hi people, an update.

    I told another resident, who is in the exact same situation as me, about my success after speaking to the land owner.

    They were told that the landowner will not cancel her tickets but will TRY point them in the right direction. (they did nothing)

    I received an email from landowner saying don't give out details and use discretion etc so apologised and said I'd do so.

    Yesterday, I receive an email from Capital Carpark Control regarding my pending popla appeal, it contains their evidence that they submitted to popla.

    I've emailed them and the landowners for clarification on the tickets being cancelled and have yet to receive a reply from either.

    Out of the blue, 30 mins ago, I get an email from popla.
    "POPLA assessment and decision
    25/04/2016
    Verification Code:
    1210826001

    Decision:
    Successful

    Assessor Name:
    Safoora Sagheer

    Assessor summary of operator case:
    The operator has not provided a response to the appeal.

    Assessor summary of your case:
    The appellant’s case is that she is the registered keeper and she is not liable for the parking charge.

    Assessor supporting rational for decision:
    As the operator has not provided a response to the appeal, it has not demonstrated that the Parking Charge Notice is valid. Accordingly, I must allow the appeal."

    I'm confused.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,182 Forumite
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    Great, so the PPC didn't send any evidence, presumably because they had to cancel?
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  • "Thank you for your email and information.

    We must first inform you that we cannot confirm that (Knight Dragon) in
    which you are referring is our client for the property in which your
    vehicle was parked.

    We are also not obliged to divulge our client’s information to third
    parties.

    If, however you have received correspondence from a third party that you
    believe that may form part of your evidence, you may supply this with your
    appeal.

    Please note that an appeal must be made for each individual Parking Charge
    Notice, bearing in mind they have separate references.

    Appeals can be made online at https://www.capitalcarparkcontrol.co.uk or by mail,
    using the address below but addressed to PCN Processing Centre.



    Yours Sincerely
    Capital Car Park Control
    SVS House, Oliver Grove
    London
    SE25 6EJ
    020 7701 1777
    info@capitalcarparkcontrol.co.uk
    https://www.capitalcarparkcontrol.co.uk


    I can't be bothered anymore.
  • pappa_golf
    pappa_golf Posts: 8,895 Forumite
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    edited 25 April 2016 at 7:08PM
    don,t know why you are bothering with this guy , he,s a sole trader , can a sole trader try this in CC , or would he be acting as a individual ?


    why can an individual have DVLA and BPA access?




    ask the BPA to get you copies of his:


    Please provide certificate of Insurance for Public Liability @ £5million minimum
    Please provide certificate of Insurance for Employers Liability @ £10 million minimum

    three years of registered accounts (dependant on age of company) PLUS a
    statement that shows your parking related turnover AND your private parking
    enforcement related turnover (we do require both documents)
    Save a Rachael

    buy a share in crapita
  • Gfrancis1989
    Gfrancis1989 Posts: 51 Forumite
    edited 4 June 2016 at 7:08PM
    121082600

    DecisionSuccessful
    Assessor NameSiobhan Gooley
    Assessor summary of operator case
    The operator’s case is that the appellant failed to display a permit for the site in question.

    Assessor summary of your case
    The appellant raises a number of grounds for appeal. The first is that as the registered keeper of the vehicle, liability has not transferred. He also states that the signage is inadequate, and a contract was not formed between the driver and the operator. He also states that the operator does not have the appropriate authority to carry out parking management, and that the location was not identified correctly on the notice to keeper.

    Assessor supporting rational for decision
    The appellant has raised several grounds for appeal. However, my findings will focus on compliance with the provisions of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA 2012), as this ground has persuaded me to allow the appeal. The operator states that the appellant’s vehicle, registrationxxxxxxM, was parked on Greenwich Peninsula, Chandlers Avenue on 16 November 2015. The operator advises that the terms and conditions require motorists to display a permit. It states that the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) was issued as the motorist failed to meet this condition. As the driver was not identified, the operator issued a Notice to Keeper on 3 February 2016, and is pursuing the registered keeper of the vehicle for payment of the PCN. The appellant states that he was not the driver, and has declined to identify who was driving. He states that the notice to keeper is not complied with PoFA 2012 as it was issued outside of the relevant timescales. Schedule 4 to the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 provides that liability for a parking charge may be transferred so long as certain conditions are met. It states that the relevant period is: “the period of 28 days following the period of 28 days beginning with the day after that on which the notice to driver was given.” As the notice to keeper was issued outside of the relevant period, liability has not transferred to the appellant as the registered keeper of the vehicle. Accordingly, I must allow this appeal. I have not considered any other grounds for appeal as they have no bearing on my decision
  • Ralph-y
    Ralph-y Posts: 4,705 Forumite
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    well done ........:j



    so if one assessor can understand some of Protection of Freedoms Act 2012

    why can others assessors not ?:mad:

    Ralph:cool:
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,182 Forumite
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    You do wonder whether they look for that only if the appellant says they weren't driving.

    Nice result!
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  • Gfrancis1989
    Gfrancis1989 Posts: 51 Forumite
    Is this the biggest load of bull you've ever seen?

    http://imageupload.co.uk/image/c87s
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    please remove the VRM from your posts (its not required and can identify you plus could be used for "other purposes")
  • Gfrancis1989
    Gfrancis1989 Posts: 51 Forumite
    Redx wrote: »
    please remove the VRM from your posts (its not required and can identify you plus could be used for "other purposes")

    Done so, thanks :)
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