The Mad World of Donald Trump

TrickyTree83

They're both appalling candidates.

Hilary should, as Trump put it, be in jail. And Trump shouldn't even be a candidate.

Thrugelmir

vivatifosi wrote: »

He's lost the Republican hierarchy. It must surely be game over if this comes out. And not before time.

No one is vilifying Corbyn and his appointed bunch of cronies. The Uk comments on others. Yet needs to look at itself.

vivatifosi

There are plenty of people who are vilifying Corbyn Thrug. The reason that people have strong opinions on the leaders of the US is that they are a superpower. As a bit player on the world stage, people are less interested in politicians from the UK, Germany, Japan, France, Canada, Australia, etc.

A huge number of people worldwide can name the US President. I doubt that the same can be said about the British PM, let alone the leader of the opposition.

Thrugelmir

vivatifosi wrote: »

There are plenty of people who are vilifying Corbyn Thrug. The reason that people have strong opinions on the leaders of the US is that they are a superpower.

Maybe so. However politics in the US comes down to money and lobbying. Another reason why the average Joe is in revolt.

JCB resigning from the CBI is quite revealing. Perhaps shows the influence of non UK entities in policy making. Seems as if the establishment is being blown wide open all over the place.

Keep_pedalling

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

They're both appalling candidates.

Hilary should, as Trump put it, be in jail. And Trump shouldn't even be a candidate.

And what evidence do you have to show that she should be in jail apart from RW wing nut web sites and Fox News?

TrickyTree83

Keep_pedalling wrote: »

And what evidence do you have to show that she should be in jail apart from RW wing nut web sites and Fox News?

Even if the servers were not hacked, it's a criminal offence to store top secret information in such an environment where they can easily be hacked.

It's got nothing to do with RW nut job web sites or RW media. Similar practices are followed by private companies protecting their data. What she did would be the same as me setting up my own personal email server network to deal with work emails that contain sensitive commercial information. That's not a criminal offence, but risking confidential and top secret governmental information is. The FBI have acknowledged that such confidential and top secret information was handled through these servers.

Do you believe that the law shouldn't apply to Hillary Clinton?

Keep_pedalling

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Even if the servers were not hacked, it's a criminal offence to store top secret information in such an environment where they can easily be hacked.

It's got nothing to do with RW nut job web sites or RW media. Similar practices are followed by private companies protecting their data. What she did would be the same as me setting up my own personal email server network to deal with work emails that contain sensitive commercial information. That's not a criminal offence, but risking confidential and top secret governmental information is. The FBI have acknowledged that such confidential and top secret information was handled through these servers.

Do you believe that the law shouldn't apply to Hillary Clinton?

It has everything to do with RW wing nuts, she is not above the law which is why the email server thing was investigated by the FBI who have concluded she committed no criminal offence. If the wing nuts were really concerned nearly about the legal side of this they should also be going after her republican predecessor who did exactly the same thing.

Trump on the other hand may indeed end up doing time for his Trump University scam, and may possible be facing charges with regards to the rape of a 13 year old.

TrickyTree83

Keep_pedalling wrote: »

It has everything to do with RW wing nuts, she is not above the law which is why the email server thing was investigated by the FBI who have concluded she committed no criminal offence. If the wing nuts were really concerned nearly about the legal side of this they should also be going after her republican predecessor who did exactly the same thing.

Trump on the other hand may indeed end up doing time for his Trump University scam, and may possible be facing charges with regards to the rape of a 13 year old.

Yeah, jobs for the boys (or girls in this case). The law has not been upheld in this particular case with Hillary. Protected by political power and I assume in your opinion exonerated by a simple statement from the FBI rather than a trial by jury of her peers.

I suppose you also think there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?

Keep_pedalling

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Yeah, jobs for the boys (or girls in this case). The law has not been upheld in this particular case with Hillary. Protected by political power and I assume in your opinion exonerated by a simple statement from the FBI rather than a trial by jury of her peers.

I suppose you also think there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?

No one goes before a jury unless they have been charged with a crime. You have no evidence that she has committed one other than accusations coming from her political opponents especially those on the lunatic fringe of the Republican Party. Only authoritarian dictators get to prosecute their political opponents. If what she did was a crime why are people also not calling for Colin Powell's head because he did the same? But he is a Republican so nothing is said.

It's interesting you should bring up WMDs, because no I don't believe that rot, yet the people who are screaming that HC should be jailed for Benghzi, for some strange reason don't think Bush should be jailed for going to war on that massive lie.

TrickyTree83

Keep_pedalling wrote: »

No one goes before a jury unless they have been charged with a crime. You have no evidence that she has committed one other than accusations coming from her political opponents especially those on the lunatic fringe of the Republican Party. Only authoritarian dictators get to prosecute their political opponents. If what she did was a crime why are people also not calling for Colin Powell's head because he did the same? But he is a Republican so nothing is said.

It's interesting you should bring up WMDs, because no I don't believe that rot, yet the people who are screaming that HC should be jailed for Benghzi, for some strange reason don't think Bush should be jailed for going to war on that massive lie.

Why aren't people calling for Colin Powell's head!?

Great question! He claimed there was WMD in Iraq and Hillary seems to think he was using private email servers for official government business too.

Bush, Powell, Blair, Clinton, are you noticing a pattern? I sincerely hope we in the UK do prosecute our leaders who take us to war and lie to the population. We sent young men and women to die and destabilise an entire region.

If the political will was not for keeping her out of court, she'd damn well be in it.