If we vote for Brexit what happens

Herzlos

Conrad wrote: »

The British people want sensible, managed immigration, something the Remainers were unable to comprehend for some odd reason.

Do they? We have no idea what they actually want.

mayonnaise

Herzlos wrote: »

Do they? We have no idea what they actually want.

I thought it was all about giving African farmers a better deal.

Conrad

Herzlos wrote: »

Do they? We have no idea what they actually want.

Reputable mainstream polls have consistently revealed immigration to be a top 3 voter priority.

It is stupendously naïve to think mass immigration is not a concern for the majority.

Conrad

mayonnaise wrote: »

I thought it was all about giving African farmers a better deal.

One of the benefits of Brexit, yes.


I thought you compassion apostles would be right behind this instead of selfishly celebrating the outflow of vital medical skills from the third world that benefits only the over-entitled obese British society.

CLAPTON

mayonnaise wrote: »

I thought it was all about giving African farmers a better deal.

Typical of your white, chrisitian, eurocentric bigotry, to sneer and mock poor African people who have been done great harm, by the EU's CAP protectionist discriminatory policies.
Do you feel a bigger man because you can economically oppress them : miss the empire do you?

Herzlos

Conrad wrote: »

Reputable mainstream polls have consistently revealed immigration to be a top 3 voter priority.

It is stupendously naïve to think mass immigration is not a concern for the majority.

That doesn't mean they want controlled, skilled migration.

Lots of them seem to want anyone foreign to bog off home, including non-EU citizens.

Conrad

Herzlos wrote: »

That doesn't mean they want controlled, skilled migration.

Lots of them seem to want anyone foreign to bog off home, including non-EU citizens.

Come 2020 if we are well on the way to properly managed immigration with far lower numbers, that will good enough to satisfy people and win a GE.


My concern is our liberal minded soft touch Governmental organs will still allow migrants to run rings around the system, for example whereby fake marriages done abroad entitle familial immigration and even fake birth certs for children (adults perhaps) will allow massive immigration to persist.


As such the role for UKIP remains vital.


I'd insist all immigrants pay their way for education, health, everything for their first 5 years and deposit say £10k in a Govt coffer to this end up-front as this would deter many but our lilly livered oooman rights lawyer class would seek to hamper such things.


I've heard many accounts of Brits being expected to contribute to their health care in places like France, and we just quietly obey their rules.

mayonnaise

Conrad wrote: »

I've heard many accounts of Brits being expected to contribute to their health care in places like France, and we just quietly obey their rules.

Yes, because it's a contributory system.
Whether you are a French native or a Brit expat, you'll pay exactly the same into the "Caisse Maladie", equivalent to our N.I.
And a French native will get exactly the same reimbursements as a British expat at point of treatment.
But don't let facts get into the way of your usual Daily Mail vitriol.

Herzlos

Conrad wrote: »

I'd insist all immigrants pay their way for education, health, everything for their first 5 years and deposit say £10k in a Govt coffer to this end up-front as this would deter many but our lilly livered oooman rights lawyer class would seek to hamper such things..

And leave the locals to freeload? If you're worried about people taking from the system and not paying in, why not make everyone pay a £10k deposit to live here?

Incidentally, immigrants already have to pay their own higher level education, which keeps most of our universities open, and immigrants on the whole more than cover their own costs when it comes to state funding. So generally, they pay their own way better than large groups of locals.

Conrad

Herzlos wrote: »

and immigrants on the whole more than cover their own costs when it comes to state funding.

Yeah, course they do mate. Isn't it great the naïve middle class professors that make these conclusions went out and studied the cash in hand traders, those with kebab shops with rooms let above for cash in hand that take back that cash to Turkey to 'clean it up' and bring it back to the UK, the army of folk on low pay that pay little of no tax enjoying in work housing benefit and all the rest


Fingers right on the pulse, ta da