If we vote for Brexit what happens

MobileSaver

Crashy_Time wrote: »

It`s those who made the decision two or three years ago that need to worry,

You mean the ones who have seen house prices grow by 8%, 7% and 5% over the last three years and where the forecasts are for prices to keep increasing over the next five years too? They must be quaking in their boots! :rotfl:

glasgowdan

Crashy_Time wrote: »

The twist comes when those people, who supposedly did this, are on the internet every day telling others to do the same, that then raises suspicions towards the real motive :rotfl:

This is coming from the man who believes he can single handedly convince the country that house prices are dropping by preaching his flawed and narrow viewpoint over and over on the net. There are no suspicions about your motives!

A_Medium_Size_Jock

CLAPTON wrote: »

people have learnt that a plentiful supply of cheap labour

-suppresses wages especially for the lower paid
-discouraged investment to improve productivity so maintaining low pay for ever
-that immigrants live in housese/flats which, in general increases the price of property and reduces the amount of family sized houses that young people can live in
-actually immigrant do enter relationships with the native born
-know that the effects of immigration vary from area to area of the country
-know that migrants do use NHS, Schools, road space, train space etc
-know that immigrant consume imports like food, fuel, electronic goods etc

and they know all this without being tribal.

Quite so, and a few more things have been learned besides.
For example, that a plentiful supply of cheap labour:

Suppresses a wide range of home-grown training due to freely-available imported labour: Think nurses/pharmacists/physiotherapists/doctors - and that is just for the NHS.
Do you really want to explore other areas?

Leads to increased crime, especially violence and deaths (strangely opposite to the toastie's report above). From Eastern-European honour killings to Romanian pickpockets, there's often quite an increase in areas with many immigrants.

Actually deflate the UK economy by funds being sent to family "at home", rather than being used within the UK.

Increases immigration as the "cheap labour" often brings further family members into the UK - and no, IME these are not immediate family. Cousins, friends and more who come to stay with immigrant in the hope of finding work, like friend/cousin has.

Tribal?
Yeah, right.
Affecting financially is NOT tribal.

Kohoutek

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

I was about to set off on a massive exercise of typing loads of text that probably no one would read, linking to URL's all over the internet to try and demonstrate it to you when it occurred to me that I don't need to. That my preferred stance could be summed up by referencing two countries, Norway and Switzerland. Now they're not without their own problems and our country is different to theirs I admit, but it cannot be argued against that they do very well out of their current arrangements. We should aim for something similar.

If we are going to go for that kind of arrangement, we might as well stay in the EU. What does it add?

buglawton

mayonnaise wrote: »

It's not a Guardian op-ed piece, you know...it's a forecast by the British Chamber of Commerce.

Perhaps a direct quote from the article will help you then:
"The confidence of the business community was dealt another blow over the weekend as it emerged Liam Fox..."

Which has exactly what to do with the price of fish?

mayonnaise

globalds wrote: »

Perhaps they could send that European army we were told wasn't on anyone's agenda ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37359196

Have some respect, a man died.

Britain in 2016.

Polish people being beaten up and stamped to death on our streets, Polish cultural centres smeared with vile graffiti. Polish shop windows smashed. Kristallnacht comes to mind.

Mortgagefreeman

mayonnaise wrote: »

Have some respect, a man died.

Britain in 2016.

Polish people being beaten up and stamped to death on our streets, Polish cultural centres smeared with vile graffiti. Polish shop windows smashed. Kristallnacht comes to mind.

Unfortunately there will always be a small minority of racist scum. However in your warped and twisted mind everyone who voted Brexit is either a racist or a closet racist.

Perhaps you could look at what's happening in other Countries before focusing on the UK? For instance, we don't have our Policeman shooting people for being black, like in the US.

TrickyTree83

Kohoutek wrote: »

If we are going to go for that kind of arrangement, we might as well stay in the EU. What does it add?

It's not though is it, or Switzerland and Norway would be in the EU. Clearly there is a difference, a beneficial one too.

Conrad

Something the pessimists have overlooked is just how cunning us Brits are, just read our history. If you could get your heads around the thought we actually hold a lot of aces and that we certainly are not the begging dog awaiting table scraps, you could open your mind to a refreshing Brexit breakfast, the full English if you like.

The pessimistic Remainer minds me of a chap this morning, a campaigner against Hinkley Point saying we have insurmountable technical issues that we can't possibly manage to build his thing, and yet I watch those documentaries no how we faced far bigger unknowns in the past and managed to deliver a load of nuclear power plants.

Reality is what you make it, it isn't something stored in a jar and handed to you

mayonnaise

Mortgagefreeman wrote: »

Unfortunately there will always be a small minority of racist scum. However in your warped and twisted mind everyone who voted Brexit is either a racist or a closet racist.

Not everyone who voted Brexit is a racist, but every racist voted for Brexit. Enjoy your bedfellows.

Mortgagefreeman wrote: »

Perhaps you could look at what's happening in other Countries before focusing on the UK? For instance, we don't have our Policeman shooting people for being black, like in the US.

You might want to ponder a bit longer on this before spouting further nonsense.