If we vote for Brexit what happens

wotsthat

kabayiri wrote: »

It's moot anyway. The decision has been made. Long term the UK and the EU paths will diverge. We won't feature in their future plans, whatever they might be.

You're right - it's moot - we've punched below our weight for years and we've decided to give up some of the influence we had. We will feature in their plans, and they in ours, though - we're not about to float off anywhere so might still have concerns about Turkey joining the EU, an EU army and all the other things we worried about in the run up to the referendum.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

What many like about the man is his straight talking. That is not the normal Politiciens approach and while making many enemies he has sufficient "friends" to be sitting in a very powerful chair.

That's like any politician. Then as was the case with Keith Vaz yesterday. Your credibility can be tarnished beyond redemption instantly. Never fully trust any politician. As you never know the real person behind the mask.

buglawton

ruggedtoast wrote: »

America, the EU and now Australia. Britain is lining up to be at the back of the queue for new trade deals.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/australia-says-there-will-not-be-a-brexit-trade-deal-with-uk-for-years-a7229366.html

Maybe there is a solution to all this. The 52% of people who voted Brexit can pay Brexit prices when they go to the shops or just not be able to buy some things at all, they can be stopped at the border when they try and go to France, and if they go into a business in the UK and there is a European person there, then that person will just ignore them as though they don't exist.

The rest of us can carry on in the 21st Century. I would be quite happy with this.

Bring it on! Sounds like a bargain, when 52% of the nett £8.5 billion that the UK sent to the EU last year is returned to us.

Crashy_Time

glasgowdan wrote: »

Or, worded another way, "more than two thirds of Brits have plenty spare cash each month".

Or maybe it is "Two thirds are doing better, they are TWO whole paychecks from disaster!", or maybe it is something else, the point is though that you don`t know. In a healthy economy no one would be one paycheck from disaster because of housing/debt costs.

CLAPTON

buglawton wrote: »

If we allowed tariff free import from ALL countries, UK agriculture would promptly collapse. All countries try to strategically keep the national agriculture sector=part of food supply protected.

For this to be so, then it implies that ALL countries produce a surplus that can be sold to the UK below cost of production, and that all countries will subsidise their farmers even after the level of strategic production is reached.

That seem sunlikely although I have no specialise knowledge to prove or disprove.

Anyway, if we are flooded with cheap high quality produce, then perhp we can use more land to reduce flooding (water) by creating water meadows and planting trees and of course build some more houses.

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

It's because, in the real world, the UK elites will seek to protect themselves at the expense of others. Leaving the EU won't change this one iota. The first people on the bandwagon would be dairy farmers squealing for new tariffs on EU milk so we can keep buying their overpriced commodity. To most people it unfortunately makes such sense too.

Tariff free rice, mango and bananas - that might be doable but potatoes, milk, rapeseed - forget it.

Well, I'm sure Corbyn would be happy to wipe out the UK elites: at least now he will be allowed to do that.

mwpt

CLAPTON wrote: »

For this to be so, then it implies that ALL countries produce a surplus that can be sold to the UK below cost of production, and that all countries will subsidise their farmers even after the level of strategic production is reached.

That seem sunlikely although I have no specialise knowledge to prove or disprove.

Anyway, if we are flooded with cheap high quality produce, then perhp we can use more land to reduce flooding (water) by creating water meadows and planting trees and of course build some more houses.

But I thought one of the arguments for brexit was to stop foreigners undercutting our labour and stealing jobs?

CLAPTON

mwpt wrote: »

But I thought one of the arguments for brexit was to stop foreigners undercutting our labour and stealing jobs?

I wouldn't expect a 'remainer' to either understand or support free trade.

Rinoa

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/g20-summit-pm-commons-statement-7-september-2016

Statement from the Prime Minister

I know many people are keen to see rapid progress and to understand what post-Brexit Britain will look like. We are getting on with that vital work. But we must also think through the issues in a sober and considered way. And as I have said this is about getting the kind of deal that is ambitious and bold for Britain. It is not about the Norway model or the Swiss model or any other country’s model – it is about developing our own British model. So we will not take decisions until we are ready. We will not reveal our hand prematurely and we will not provide a running commentary on every twist and turn of the negotiation. And I say that because that is not the best way to conduct a strong and mature negotiation that will deliver the best deal for the people of this country.

You've been told. Don't ask again.

mrginge

Rinoa wrote: »

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/g20-summit-pm-commons-statement-7-september-2016

Statement from the Prime Minister



You've been told. Don't ask again.

Oh but we need to be told so that we can make sure that they're sticking to the 'will of the people' and other such nonsense.