If we vote for Brexit what happens

CLAPTON

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I wonder what the Kippers will do when the referendum is a resounding REMAIN.

Will they finally shut up?

Should the forum order a nice big order of humble pie for Clapton to chow down on, in readiness?


Clapton prepares to tuck in

It is a little amusing (or do I mean pathetic), that all the leftie posers who claim to love all personkind, actual hate half the people of the country in which they reside.

However, if the young people of this country wish never to own a decent home and vote accordingly then so beit : that's democracy, Turkeys voting for Christmas

ruggedtoast

CLAPTON wrote: »

It is a little amusing (or do I mean pathetic), that all the leftie posers who claim to love all personkind, actual hate half the people of the country in which they reside.

However, if the young people of this country wish never to own a decent home and vote accordingly then so beit : that's democracy, Turkeys voting for Christmas

Don't let it give you wind.

Edit: And btw, the reason young people dont have housing is because the government, which you voted for, has a policy of strangling property building to benefit home owning boomers, ie. you. If you care about this you would be better off complaining to your MP than voting us out of the EU.

Mistermeaner

CLAPTON wrote: »

It is a little amusing (or do I mean pathetic), that all the leftie posers who claim to love all personkind, actual hate half the people of the country in which they reside.

However, if the young people of this country wish never to own a decent home and vote accordingly then so beit : that's democracy, Turkeys voting for Christmas

I'm right wing Clapton. In a capitalism no benefits free market type way.

You come across as right wing in a very different way

You appear one dimension al in your thinking. Increasing population will always strain resource's, but with more labour more resources can be built and services provided. Would you advocate breeding controls as strongly as you do closed borders?

We need growth to remain prosperous and we need population growth to make that happen.

Yolina

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I wonder what the Kippers will do when the referendum is a resounding REMAIN.

Will they finally shut up?

Maybe they could leave the country

mrginge

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Don't let it give you wind.

Edit: And btw, the reason young people dont have housing is because the government, which you voted for, has a policy of strangling property building to benefit home owning boomers, ie. you. If you care about this you would be better off complaining to your MP than voting us out of the EU.

Thank god labour built all those houses when they were in power and enjoying massive surpluses.

BobQ

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Oh for heavens sakes, we know how many we need to build and we know where the areas of demand are, we just don't do it because of planning restrictions, mortgage rationing and rampant Nimbyism........................................................

The demand for labour over the next 30 years will be insatiable and no matter how much you may dislike this fact we have not bred enough replacement workers for decades now - if the few remaining UK unemployed don't want to get off their rear ends and move to where the jobs are then someone has to fill that gap - and that someone is EU migrants.

I thought you were about to suggest the unemployed might be employed to fill the gap created by a lower birth rate:)

I agree that local authorities ought to be able to plan what is needed. After all they generally have about 20 years notice and can adapt this when electoral registers change, businesses relocate etc. Immigration is just a perturbation in the trends they should be predicting and planning for. Clearly there are some uncertainties but it is not that difficult.

CLAPTON

Mistermeaner wrote: »

I'm right wing Clapton. In a capitalism no benefits free market type way.

You come across as right wing in a very different way

You appear one dimension al in your thinking. Increasing population will always strain resource's, but with more labour more resources can be built and services provided. Would you advocate breeding controls as strongly as you do closed borders?

We need growth to remain prosperous and we need population growth to make that happen.

you have no evidence that increase in population
-provide higher per capita gdp
-that provide a better environment
-a higher standard of living in terms of peoples actual lives

where are the economic text books that say higher polulation is better : is it a universal truth ; does it apply in spain, italy, greece, indian, china etc do they all lack people to make them prosperous?

no, you have fallen for the one-dimensional, totally unproven, much repeated thinking (either emprirically or theoretically ) that a larger population provides better housing, better transport, better health care better schools for each of us (yes it produces MORE but are each of us better off ).

do you think our infrastructure (in its widest sense ) is fit for purpose or do we need to raise income tax to pay for it (as you say you are right wing, I assume you don't think the money grows on trees)


where is the theory ?
where is the evidence ?

Mistermeaner

I'll answer your questions if you answer mine

CLAPTON

Mistermeaner wrote: »

I'll answer your questions if you answer mine

you didn't ask a question you made several statements but I will happily answer any questions you wish to pose

ruggedtoast

mrginge wrote: »

Thank god labour built all those houses when they were in power and enjoying massive surpluses.

New Labour.

Vom.