If we vote for Brexit what happens

CLAPTON

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Millions were spent on contingency plans actually.




http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/590045.stm

In the sense that all significantly sized projects, including major software upgrades include contingency plans in case things go wrong, then you are obviously correct.
However, the major spend was upgrading the software and hardware.
The may also have been non consequential contingency planning but I would guess that was relatively small beer.

gfplux

Clapton, why can you not see you are wrong about the milenium bug. You just keep banging on about upgrades... Blah blah.
Once again you want to nit pick and not focus on my simple question. Posts number 1 and 15.
Please talk me through the process of getting out of the EU once those that vote have voted OUT.

CLAPTON

gfplux wrote: »

Clapton, why can you not see you are wrong about the milenium bug. You just keep banging on about upgrades... Blah blah.
Once again you want to nit pick and not focus on my simple question. Posts number 1 and 15.
Please talk me through the process of getting out of the EU once those that vote have voted OUT.

no, I don't like your attitude

Thrugelmir

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Considering the Tories managed to take a dead cert (that even Alex Salmond said was a once in a lifetime event) in the Scottish referendum, to a close run thing that lit the touchpaper of nationalism the next day; I have no confidence this government is in any way competent to handle it. Either the run up or the aftermath.

Salmond jumped ship at the first opportunity. Said a lot about his convictions. After blustering his way through the debates with diversionary tactics such as the issue of the NHS. Avoiding the Scottish economy which is central to any final decision.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

My greatest problem in all of this is the facts are being obscured by the spin put on them by both sides.

Facts are out there already. There's no spin. Just entrenched positions within the EU. As there's a polarisation of views between the negotiating parties.

surfsister

we'll never leave Europe been promised a vote since Gordon brown was in has anyone seen a vote yet???

th eec has ruined this country so it hardly matters now anyway.

gfplux

CLAPTON wrote: »

no, I don't like your attitude

I suspect you don't like my attitude as I am not on your side of the argument.

Generali

JoeJoe1 wrote: »

What is interesting is that when you ask a "Yes" voter if they want to adopt the Euro and have greater integration in Europe, they always say "No". They want the status-quo of us remaining one foot in and one foot out. Do they not realise that a UK "Yes" vote will be taken by politicians as the green light for greater EU/UK integration?

Either you want to be in the EU or you want to be out. The halfway house we currently have isn't working and will become increasingly untenable as the EU moved inexorably towards closer integration.

JoeJoe1 wrote: »

instead of taking this rather aloof stance, why not actually debate and tell me what you think is wrong with this statement? You're just coming across as a bit of an a$$ at the moment.

I have highlighted the bit that is a false dichotomy. HTH.

The approach the UK is taking to Europe is perfectly workable in that....it's working! You get access to the markets of Europe while avoiding the worst of the costs.

Norway has everything imposed on them and still pays almost the same per head as the UK. Plus, of course, if the UK tries to leave the EU will try to shaft the UK as badly as possible.

I always come across as an ar53 to people that disagree with me. It's my schtick.

antrobus

Wake_up_call wrote: »

Except it doesn't and if you'd bothered to read which rights we waived away under the Labour government you'd know that....

Except it doesn't what? What exactly are you on about?

Wake_up_call wrote: »

...You've spent two days frantically Googling after previously twisting words out of proportion ......

Er no. You obviously haven' read any of the previous EU- Brexit themed threads in which I've been obliged to explain exactly the same thing about the various Norway/Switzerland/Turkey and so forth options.

Wake_up_call wrote: »

...and you've come back here and you're still wrong.

Wrong about what exactly?

antrobus

Generali wrote: »

....Norway has everything imposed on them and still pays almost the same per head as the UK.....

Norway certainly does not get a free ride, although I certainly think it pays less per capita. (At the moment at least; the EC wants Norway to pay more.) The Norwegian Minister for EU Affairs thinks that Norway pays or less what it would be paying if it was an EU member.

http://www.euractiv.com/sections/global-europe/vidar-helgesen-our-eea-contribution-costs-almost-much-eu-membership-314369

Generali wrote: »

....Plus, of course, if the UK tries to leave the EU will try to shaft the UK as badly as possible....

That's the thing.

Nobody knows what the result of any Brexit negotitations would be. And since we would be the one that was wanting to change things, there's a good chance that we will be the one paying the price.