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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • Yah_Boo_Sux
    Yah_Boo_Sux Posts: 133 Forumite
    For those wondering who decides and approves the content of negotiations during the Brexit process have a read of this.
    http://www.politico.eu/article/meet-the-obscure-eu-council-driving-brexit-negotiations-general-affairs-council-michel-barnier/
    The General Affairs Council (GAC), an arcane body that faded in relevance long ago and in recent years has acted mostly as a forum to prepare the ground for EU leaders’ summits, will take its first major Brexit decision Monday by approving the detailed directives for the EU’s Brexit negotiator, Michel Barnier.

    It is expected to act as a gatekeeper, formally approving crucial decisions through the Brexit negotiating process, essentially standing in for the EU27 leaders whose busy schedules and complex security requirements mean they cannot be convened as quickly or as often as the talks with the U.K. may require.
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    edited 22 May 2017 at 12:34PM
    mayonnaise wrote: »
    Here you go : http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/balance-of-trade
    You could have googled that yourself. ;)




    Over simplification once again. I'm interested in the overall trend direction of our economy regards all the factors that put us on a more sustainable economic footing. In time you will get it.


    Your admiration of an economy based on consumer borrowing to spend on imports is quite perplexing. That unsuitable model wont address the long term need to earn hard currency and create the good dignified jobs people desire. Our productivity is not helped by us all selling one another houses, consultancy services and importing Chinese knickers
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Conrad wrote: »
    Our productivity is not helped by us all selling one another houses, consultancy services

    Says the poster who has spent years on here claiming he makes a living from a consultancy service for people selling one another houses....

    Honestly - you couldn't make it up.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    Says the poster who has spent years on here claiming he makes a living from a consultancy service for people selling one another houses....

    Honestly - you couldn't make it up.




    You are 100% correct, but at least I'm self aware


    I'd far rather have had the bottle to set up a manufacturing company and earn us hard currency. I'd like to see a UK manufacturing renaissance


    Anyway I'll leave you to keep celebrating the theft of vital nurses from the impoverished third world, and arguing we can have an endless increase in population without consequence


    I'm voting against my own property interests with Brexit, whereas you are most concerned with increasing rental and ownership demand. I wonder which is the more moral and honest stance?
  • GreatApe
    GreatApe Posts: 4,452 Forumite
    Manufacturing will go the way of agriculture

    Nobody wants more people to work in farming jobs because 1-2% of the population has that sorted
    The same will happen to manufacturing and that rate will rapidly increase post 2020 as the sector goes to less than 5% employed in manufacturing and no one will talk about manufacturing anymore because like agriculture it will be so automated that there will be few jobs in it

    The modern world is going to go to 95% services. If Conrad wants to bash metal or dig coal out of the ground he is going to have to emigrate to a poor 3rd world country
  • GreatApe
    GreatApe Posts: 4,452 Forumite
    GreatApe wrote: »
    Manufacturing will go the way of agriculture

    Nobody wants more people to work in farming jobs because 1-2% of the population has that sorted
    The same will happen to manufacturing and that rate will rapidly increase post 2020 as the sector goes to less than 5% employed in manufacturing and no one will talk about manufacturing anymore because like agriculture it will be so automated that there will be few jobs in it

    The modern world is going to go to 95% services. If Conrad wants to bash metal or dig coal out of the ground he is going to have to emigrate to a poor 3rd world country


    oh and the good news for you Conrad is that you will probably be unemployed in10 years as the AI starts to offer better service advice than a sweaty bag of flesh sitting in a suit. Maybe sooner if the regulator and banks take the TMW or Santander route and allow customers to remortgage using their computers and five minutes of their time rather than use your good self charging £1,000 in fees and taking up a day of my time with often sub optimal advise

    you better get nimble so you can start up your bespoke tiger milk cheese manufacturing business
  • GreatApe wrote: »
    Manufacturing will go the way of agriculture

    Nobody wants more people to work in farming jobs because 1-2% of the population has that sorted
    The same will happen to manufacturing and that rate will rapidly increase post 2020 as the sector goes to less than 5% employed in manufacturing and no one will talk about manufacturing anymore because like agriculture it will be so automated that there will be few jobs in it

    The modern world is going to go to 95% services. If Conrad wants to bash metal or dig coal out of the ground he is going to have to emigrate to a poor 3rd world country
    That's a bit extreme IMHO.
    You can't get dressed into your services, eat your services for brekky, travel to work in your services and use nothing but services in your work you know.
    ;)

    You might be interested to learn that - despite the loss of traditional industry and manufacturing like material/clothing or deep coal mining, manufacturing flourishes in the UK.

    We just made a record number of cars for example.

    Read:
    http://www.themanufacturer.com/uk-manufacturing-statistics/
    Despite the decline since the 1970s, when manufacturing contributed 25% of UK GDP, the UK is currently the ninth largest manufacturing nation in the world.
    Overall, the UK’s industrial sector has increased by 1.4% a year since 1948, according to a recent report from the Office for National Statistics (ONS).
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    GreatApe wrote: »
    ...
    you better get nimble so you can start up your bespoke tiger milk cheese manufacturing business

    In the interest of balance, other brands of big cat dairy produce are available ;)
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    kabayiri wrote: »
    In the interest of balance, other brands of big cat dairy produce are available ;)

    I just had a visual of Conrad trying to herd cats for milking.... :eek:

    Which in fairness would probably go better than his current line of argument in this thread.:D
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    I just had a visual of Conrad trying to herd cats for milking.... :eek:

    Which in fairness would probably go better than his current line of argument in this thread.:D

    You may disagree with Conrad, but I think his line of argument has been fairly consistent.

    He accepts that some of the things he suggests would actually reduce demand for the property services he offers.

    Would you be as consistent with your new found support for the SNP?
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