If we vote for Brexit what happens

Conrad

Arklight wrote: »

They don't seem to be what Conrad says they are as tariffs aren't removed, they are just lowered.

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Professor Minford makes the argument FTA's invariably benefit a big few vested interest corporations, and that the world would be better off without these agreements.

Arklight

Conrad wrote: »

Professor Minford makes the argument FTA's invariably benefit a big few vested interest corporations, and that the world would be better off without these agreements.

Wait, what? Do you want one or not??

gfplux

setmefree2 wrote: »

http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/my-message-to-theresa-may-listen-and-learn-from-our-greek-tragedy-a3536551.html



I shall look out for this one

Barnier keeps repeating his agenda for the negotiations.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/barnier-says-brexit-will-come-at-a-cost-but-we-are-where-we-are-1.3079612
"“I also made very clear that the border issue would be one of my three priorities for the first phase of the negotiations, together with citizens’ rights and the financial settlement,’’ he added."

So we really don't need to keep asking what MP May will be talking about as the above will be the first three points on the Agenda of phase one, "the divorce"
Just worry that those three will take forever to agree.

It will be a long, long time before they will be able to move on to PHASE 2 the (free trade blah blah) trading relationship AFTER Britain leaves the EU.

gfplux

Brexit slowdown, never?
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/may/11/brexit-industrial-output-trade-deficit-march0ons?CMP=share_btn_fb

Industrial output shrank more than expected and the trade deficit widened in March in the latest signs that uncertainty surrounding Brexit is beginning to weigh on the economy.

Industrial output dropped by 0.5% in March, sharper than the 0.3% fall predicted by economists. It followed a 0.7% fall in February and brought the sector to a virtual standstill in the first quarter overall, with growth of just 0.1%, according to the Office for National Statistics figures.

Production was dragged lower as warmer-than-average temperatures led to a 4.2% fall in energy supply, and manufacturing also fell unexpectedly by 0.6%.

Economists said the weak data made it unlikely that the ONS would revise up its first estimate of growth for the first quarter overall, when the economy grew by a weaker-than-expected 0.3%.

gfplux

Mark Carney always has a lot to say but is often reported to have said two different things.
This is the BBC version.
"Bank of England governor Mark Carney has warned of a consumer spending squeeze this year as inflation rises and real wages fall.
This year will be "a more challenging time for British households" and "wages won't keep up with prices", he said.
He was upbeat about wage growth beyond 2017 - but only if the government secures a "smooth" exit from the EU.
It came as the bank trimmed UK economic growth forecasts for 2017 from 2% to 1.9% and held interest rates at 0.25%.
The bank, unveiling its Quarterly Inflation Report, also raised its forecast for inflation this year to 2.7% from its February forecast of 2.4%."

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-39880844

I am sure someone will come up with a news report that says he says the opposite

CKhalvashi

gfplux wrote: »

Mark Carney always has a lot to say but is often reported to have said two different things.
This is the BBC version.
"Bank of England governor Mark Carney has warned of a consumer spending squeeze this year as inflation rises and real wages fall.
This year will be "a more challenging time for British households" and "wages won't keep up with prices", he said.
He was upbeat about wage growth beyond 2017 - but only if the government secures a "smooth" exit from the EU.
It came as the bank trimmed UK economic growth forecasts for 2017 from 2% to 1.9% and held interest rates at 0.25%.
The bank, unveiling its Quarterly Inflation Report, also raised its forecast for inflation this year to 2.7% from its February forecast of 2.4%."

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-39880844

I am sure someone will come up with a news report that says he says the opposite

On a smaller level, we are still in 2 minds regarding whether to expand a U.K. circuit or not.

Spending squeezes are our main concern, and while that may work in our favour in the short term, the sheer cost of it may make it not worth the risk overall.

I posted at the tail end of last year that it was causing arguments, and it still is, for exactly the same reason.

gfplux

gfplux wrote: »

Barnier keeps repeating his agenda for the negotiations.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/barnier-says-brexit-will-come-at-a-cost-but-we-are-where-we-are-1.3079612
"“I also made very clear that the border issue would be one of my three priorities for the first phase of the negotiations, together with citizens’ rights and the financial settlement,’’ he added."

So we really don't need to keep asking what MP May will be talking about as the above will be the first three points on the Agenda of phase one, "the divorce"
Just worry that those three will take forever to agree.

It will be a long, long time before they will be able to move on to PHASE 2 the (free trade blah blah) trading relationship AFTER Britain leaves the EU.

I just wanted to add this to my earlier post.
Of the first three items to be tackled first the Times suggest the "money" issue could be the easiest of the three.
Here is a link to the Times analysis of the "money" which I find quite logical and clear. Both side just have to horse trade to a final figure they can live with.
The other two issues are VERY COMPLEX and could take a lot of talking and much minute detail.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/breaking-down-britains-eu-divorce-bill-who-owes-what-and-why-9xb28z7mt?CMP=TNLEmail_118918_1845141

This is what the Times says in its daily Brexit email.
"he bottom line is this: the very upper end of the UK liabilities is likely to be €65 billion and it could come in as low as €25 billion. A senior commission figure told the Briefing yesterday that they thought that the true bill would come in at between €30 billion and €40 billion. And this is the really interesting part."

It is also suggested that the get out of jail Political card could be ARBITRATION.

gfplux

CKhalvashi wrote: »

On a smaller level, we are still in 2 minds regarding whether to expand a U.K. circuit or not.

Spending squeezes are our main concern, and while that may work in our favour in the short term, the sheer cost of it may make it not worth the risk overall.

I posted at the tail end of last year that it was causing arguments, and it still is, for exactly the same reason.

You are suffering from the uncertainty and confusion caused by Brexit. No one can put a cost on the indecision this is causing.

DarkShadow

Thanks to brexiteers, we are all doomed.

gfplux

Those who have any interest in the EU citizens presently resident in the U.K. This analysis (the writers opinion) in the Times is worth a read.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/how-to-solve-the-sticky-problem-of-eu-migrants-rights-swbh7qgfz?CMP=TNLEmail_118918_1845141

Careful the writer is billed as "an expert"