If we vote for Brexit what happens

tracey3596

mayonnaise wrote: »

This is not a report.
It's an opinion piece.
Nothing more, nothing less.

Struggling there?

report
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1.
give a spoken or written account of something that one has observed, heard, done, or investigated.
"the minister reported a decline in milk production"
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Moby

Conrad wrote: »

We have not lost a thing, for heavens sake, we will still collaborate with Europeans, lol

http://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-7213 Yeah right!

Shakethedisease

#BREAKING Merkel rejects May's call for parallel talks on EU-UK ties

Now is not the time ?

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Now is not the time ?

As a response I saw said:

So no deal and a full, clean Brexit ASAP - excellent!

Herzlos

Conrad wrote: »

We have not lost a thing, for heavens sake, we will still collaborate with Europeans, lol

You seem to think remainers are claiming that we'll stop talking to the EU entirely, which is nonsense. We're saying that being in the EU was a massive boost to lots of universities, who were getting EU funding for joint EU projects across the EU. If we're not in the EU, we lose access to a lot of it (we can still apply and get some, but we become a much harder proposition to work with because of the insular move. Why work with a non-EU university when there are dozens of EU universities that are as capable?). We've already heard of placements and projects being put on hold / cancelled, and UK universities being told not to tender for stuff, and that was before we left.

I know you think that everything will continue just as it did but better, but it's not going to be true. The new things we can do now we're free from the supposed shackles of the EU we could pretty much do anyway, but now we've likely made everything that we actually do with the EU that little bit harder, with a bit less confidence. Will that 10 year research project be viable for the duration? Will we change the terms later and cause it problems? Would it be safer to just spend the money inside the EU?

Then there's regulations; we're fine now, as we're part of the EU, but in order to trade with them we're going to have to keep up with them forever, with absolutely zero say as to what the regulations are. We can ignore them for some industries and lose the EU as a market, but that's stupid because of (a) how big they are and (b) how close they are.

We're never going to be able to replace the EU entirely with trade to the US, Aus and China, so we're still going to have to work for them, and that's just not going to be as easy unless we agree to stay in the EU in all but name.

Businesses will still run, migrants will still come, we'll still pay money to the EU, the NHS will still be underfunded, and we'll still be able to buy German cars. But lots of things will just be that little bit harder, which means things will take longer to supply / cost more, and lots of jobs will become harder, less viable and some smaller companies will have to shut entirely.

So the absolutely best outcome I can think we'll accept will leave the majority of us slightly worse off than we were before, with less say over what happens, just so that people can shout sovereignty to themselves in the pubs with their 584ml glasses of lousy British lager and their totally British curries.

StevieJ

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

From Sky: a recent poll suggests half the populace are, and I quote, "happy about the triggering of Article 50, while 36% feel sad about leaving the EU."
http://news.sky.com/story/sky-data-brexit-poll-half-of-britons-happy-about-talks-starting-10816972

Sky News travelled to the East of England to take the Brexit temperature in one of the most eurosceptic parts of the UK.

mayonnaise

tracey3596 wrote: »

Struggling there?

Not at all Tracey.

A minister reporting a decline in milk production is indeed a report.

Alistair Heath of the Telegraph ranting about the EU is opinion, not a report.

But thanks for your stellar contribution anyway.

mayonnaise

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

From Sky: a recent poll suggests half the populace are, and I quote, "happy about the triggering of Article 50, while 36% feel sad about leaving the EU."
http://news.sky.com/story/sky-data-brexit-poll-half-of-britons-happy-about-talks-starting-10816972

Let's see how many will be holding up happy faces when their pot noodles double in price and their benefits get cut because they decided to bite the hand that feeds them.

StevieJ

mayonnaise wrote: »

Let's see how many will be holding up happy faces when their pot noodles double in price and their benefits get cut because they decided to bite the hand that feeds them.

I am not sure that 50% approval in the most eurosceptic part of Britain is a rousing endorsement?

mayonnaise

StevieJ wrote: »

I am not sure that 50% approval in the most eurosceptic part of Britain is a rousing endorsement?

True...

One local man, Carl, said he had voted to leave the EU and hoped Brexit might mean more attention; that Government funding might flow into the town where he was born and bred.

Poor Carl. He's expecting more government funding.