If we vote for Brexit what happens

Shakethedisease

mrginge wrote: »

Oh and then you'd have been having a good old bleat when the scots started their own separate challenge through the high court.

What you don't seem to get is that by appealing to the supreme court it forced the SNPs hand and stopped their delaying tactics.

Oh and the govt won that argument by the way.

So as usual your big crybaby moaning is based on complete ignorance. But at least you keep us all entertained.

The Scots Govt challenge was worth every penny. Proved the Sewell convention/Smith Commission/ was a complete sham from start to finish. Killed Scottish Labour and Lib Dems arguments for more devolution or federalism stone dead. And now that May/Davidson have been talking about taking powers back included in the original 1998 Devolution Act... has allowed Sturgeon/SNP and Yes advocates to start making hay about the Tories undermining the devolution Scotland already has. Perhaps even getting rid of Holyrood altogether at some point in the future.

Money well spent. Wait until the Great Repeal Bill moves start going as well. Sturgeon could've written the script.

Fella

CKhalvashi wrote: »

So, you'd allow rule breaking (which it's now established would have been illegal) if it's in your own interests, but not Parliament completely ignoring your 'will of the people' when they have the right to do so because it's not, despite being completely within the rules, as accepted by everyone in the specific wording of the relevant legislation?
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We had a referendum on Brexit, we voted to leave because most people want to leave. Everything else is just desperate Remainers trying to justify why we should do something other than leave. Because, er, they don't want to leave.

It does make me laugh when the same people who were happy for EU Regulations to instantly become UK law are now banging on about how important it is for UK courts to approve the Brexit process.

Thrugelmir

CKhalvashi wrote: »

I appreciate that, but the UK economy is shrinking when inflation is taken into account.

Anyone that says otherwise is lying to you.

Personally I don't get hung up on GDP. As it's only one indicator of many. Politicians use it as it cover up their lack of financial expertise. Means very little to the man in the street.

Thrugelmir

mayonnaise wrote: »

A bit like the orchestra on the Titanic.

Better than listening to Nicola's record which is stuck in a groove. Playing the same music over and over and over again.

Herzlos

Fella wrote: »

Remainer nonsense of exactly the type I'm describing.

The will of 17 million voters trumps the will of 3 Judges, two of whom are best mates with Blair & had massive vested interest in seeing Brexit overturned. Luckily that ploy got nowhere, although it has wasted time & taxpayer money.

Absolutely not - the law is paramount. It's not the will of 17 million voters Vs the will of 3 judges, it's the will of 17 million Vs the interpretation of the law. If the law is wrong, then it's up to parliament to change it. All it did was confirm that May needs parliamentary approval in order to rescind an act of parliament, it's pretty common sense really.

vivatifosi

Interesting spat involving Donald Tusk. He is due to stand for another term and the UK has been working on its relationship with him as he will be pivotal in negotiations. He is backed by pretty much all the countries. However his home nation, Poland, who we are also cultivating relations with, want to put another candidate forward as Tusk -a former Polish PM - is seen as meddling.

We have also been cultivating relationships with the Poles, who think that we should back their new candidate. Messy:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/07/theresa-may-diplomatic-corner-poland-demands-uk-backing-political/

CKhalvashi

Fella wrote: »

We had a referendum on Brexit, we voted to leave because most people want to leave. Everything else is just desperate Remainers trying to justify why we should do something other than leave. Because, er, they don't want to leave.

It does make me laugh when the same people who were happy for EU Regulations to instantly become UK law are now banging on about how important it is for UK courts to approve the Brexit process.

Whether EU regulations become UK law isn't relevant to this argument at all.

We have an agreement for EU regulations to become UK law, we need to follow UK law as interpreted by senior judges in anything we do, whether that is originally an EU regulation or whether it's implementing UK regulation.

My home country has operating agreements with EASA for airline rules (which I think we will be keeping), and other agreements with the EU for other parts. Whether you or I agree with that in general, in some areas (such as aviation) I'd rather have EU standards implemented rather than God only knows what.

Same goes for other standards such as electrical, building regulations etc. It may cost the consumer more, but safety in these areas are paramount, and I can't see the UK deviating from these after the withdrawal of the UK from the EU, whether domestically or export.

British law often goes further than EU law prescribes, whilst being based on these regulations. You have to consider that, too.

gfplux

gfplux wrote: »

So early days on the Lamb research.
I was in Auchan Luxembourg yesterday.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auchan
They are a French Supermarket group with over 3000 locations in 16 Country's.
So first caveat I am pretty sure they Tayler their offering subject to their region.
Auchan Luxembourg only have British and French lamb.
Prices, well difficult as such a wide choice, so couple of examples. English leg of lamb €15.90 kilo French €22.90 kilo.
How does that compare with a British Supermarket?
However it looks to me that after Brexit they can easily swap out British lamb for New Zealand. Unless frozen and then thawed meat it not to our taste.

As we have a number of other Supermarket groups trading here I intend to see what the others offer.

2nd Supermarket Group "Cactus" they are Luxembourg born and bred. They have 44 outlets in Luxembourg but not all are hypermarkets many are outlets at petrol stations.
They appear to ONLY have WELSH lamb!
Leg of lamb €14.95 kilo
Lamb chops €18.65 kilo

Simplistic conclusion...... Luxembourg is a good market for British lamb. No sign of New Zealand product.

Who cares! Well perhaps British Lamb farmers might care and might worry about Brexit.

Tromking

https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/3042585/a-new-study-says-the-uk-is-the-third-best-country-in-the-world-after-switzerland-and-canada/

Cheer up Remoaners, you continue to live in a wonderful country! ��

CKhalvashi

Tromking wrote: »

https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/3042585/a-new-study-says-the-uk-is-the-third-best-country-in-the-world-after-switzerland-and-canada/

Cheer up Remoaners, you continue to live in a wonderful country! ��

Yes, wonderful unless you're disabled, poor or immigrant....so not lovely if you're any of those categories......