If we vote for Brexit what happens

A_Medium_Size_Jock

setmefree2 wrote: »

There is an Irish court case on just that point.

In other news.....

Mandelson calling for a big rebellion in the HoL on this morning's Marr - said that's what Blair's Friday speech was all about. Wants the HoL to delay triggering of Article 50 as long as possible.

I'm still wondering if this could all end up as a GE?

Indeed so.
Re: Mandelson - the link I provided earlier details Liz Trusses response:

The Justice Secretary also attacked some senior Labour figures, including former prime minister Tony Blair and former Business Secretary Peter Mandelson, for trying to hold up Brexit.
“People who are trying to fight yesterday’s battle need to join us in making a success of global Britain”, she said. “The Prime Minister’s set out a very clear vision and that’s what we need to get on with.”

Also (and this from the BBC) she says:

"The House of Lords now needs to get on with it. I fully expect the House of Lords will recognise the will of the people and the House of Commons."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39020252
Also in that link:

Tory backbencher Dominic Raab warned the Lords would face a backlash if it tried to hold up the Brexit process.

Absolutely correct IMHO.

orwen

The one question I have never seen definitively addressed - and backed up with clear examples, is this:- Is it in Britain's economic interest to leave the EU?

If the answer is yes, then there should be chapter & verse explaining exactly how & why.

If the answer is no, then we need to get on with our membership.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

orwen wrote: »

The one question I have never seen definitively addressed - and backed up with clear examples, is this:- Is it in Britain's economic interest to leave the EU?

If the answer is yes, then there should be chapter & verse explaining exactly how & why.

If the answer is no, then we need to get on with our membership.

Fortunately the majority of the voting electorate disagree with you.

In other news:

British households could save up to £300 on their annual shopping bill after Brexit because a tariff on non-EU goods will no longer apply

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/18/brexit-will-cut-shopping-bills-300-year-says-former-minister/#comment-section

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

They are NOT my words. However I do see that it makes some sense and does highlight some of the difficulties facing the negotiators from BOTH sides.

Certainly puts the element of the negotiations relating to trade discussions into perspective. From the UK's perspective accepting the current status quo will enable an agreement to be reached quickly on many topics. This will allow matters to run their natural course and conclusion.

Thrugelmir

orwen wrote: »

The one question I have never seen definitively addressed - and backed up with clear examples, is this:- Is it in Britain's economic interest to leave the EU?

If the answer is yes, then there should be chapter & verse explaining exactly how & why.

If the answer is no, then we need to get on with our membership.

Unfortunately the pro's and con's extend far beyond just economic issues.

I'm sure in countries such as Italy this question is being asked.

Shakethedisease

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Fortunately the majority of the voting electorate disagree with you.

In other news:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/18/brexit-will-cut-shopping-bills-300-year-says-former-minister/#comment-section

The above article. Won't that put UK farmers and food producers on the scrapheap ? They'll all go bust.

Sapphire

setmefree2 wrote: »

There is an Irish court case on just that point.

In other news.....

Mandelson calling for a big rebellion in the HoL on this morning's Marr - said that's what Blair's Friday speech was all about. Wants the HoL to delay triggering of Article 50 as long as possible.

I'm still wondering if this could all end up as a GE?

Next, Lord 'Helicopter' Heseltine will be declaring he's joining the ranks of EU pension troughers and others with vested interests in the 'lords', and the one who sees himself in a toga and a wreath of laurel leaves on his head…:rotfl:

Lovely – transparent and despicable.

Thrugelmir

Shakethedisease wrote: »

The above article. Won't that put UK farmers and food producers on the scrapheap ? They'll all go bust.

Doesn't the CAP keep food prices artificially high in order to subsidise those inefficient farmers (such as in France). Accounts for around 40% of the EU's budget. Without the UK's budget contribution who is going to fund the shortfall.

The_Last_Username

Shakethedisease wrote: »

The above article. Won't that put UK farmers and food producers on the scrapheap ? They'll all go bust.

It didn't put New Zealand farmers "on the scrapheap" in the early 70's after the UK joined the EU and stopped the half of their total exports that came to us.
So why should the UK be any different?
Besides the link below, I read somewhere recently that 99% of their farms survived the loss of our trade.
Oh, and how have the EU so negatively affected our farmers so far with for one example only dairy farmers etc. unable to draw even, never mind make a profit?
Why does anyone think that a majority of UK farmers want to leave the EU?
https://www.ft.com/content/117f5f10-ed57-11e6-ba01-119a44939bb6

Mortgagefreeman

Shakethedisease wrote: »

The above article. Won't that put UK farmers and food producers on the scrapheap ? They'll all go bust.

I doubt it, I'd be more worried about the state of your North Sea oil industry.