If we vote for Brexit what happens

Conrad

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Also today it seems that Germany is not willing to "up" it's EU budget payments according to German Deputy Finance Minister Jens Spahn.

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Precisely why there is no way they can also chose to put up trade barriers, sell less kit and have reduced taxes and thus reduced funds to contribute to the EU pot.


Michael Howard put it well today when he said we leave, we trade under WTO and offer the EU 3 or 6 months tariff free trade, and then it's entirely up to them whether they carry on tariff free thereafter or not.

Conrad

http://www.thelocal.fr/20161013/france-named-worlds-most-pessimistic-country


The French are more gloomy about the future of their country than anyone else in the world, a new study has found.


A new (2016) study from Ipsos has revealed that the French are the most likely to think their country is heading down the wrong path.

In fact, a full 88 percent of respondents to the survey answered that they think the country is going in the "wrong direction".

This compared with 83 percent of Italians who think their country is also on a downward spiral and 82 percent of Spanish.

Sweden and Germany had 73 and 71 percent of people believing their country was going the wrong way, while the figure was at 64 percent for the US, 58 percent for Australia, and 56 percent for the UK.

The world average was 62 percent thinking their country was heading the wrong way.

Matt_L

Conrad wrote: »

http://www.thelocal.fr/20161013/france-named-worlds-most-pessimistic-country


The French are more gloomy about the future of their country than anyone else in the world, a new study has found.


A new (2016) study from Ipsos has revealed that the French are the most likely to think their country is heading down the wrong path.

In fact, a full 88 percent of respondents to the survey answered that they think the country is going in the "wrong direction".

This compared with 83 percent of Italians who think their country is also on a downward spiral and 82 percent of Spanish.

Sweden and Germany had 73 and 71 percent of people believing their country was going the wrong way, while the figure was at 64 percent for the US, 58 percent for Australia, and 56 percent for the UK.

The world average was 62 percent thinking their country was heading the wrong way.

I surveyed my house and we are 100% happy that we are heading up the right path:T

westernpromise

I was going to post that the French need to find a way to reanimate Napoleon, because by god they need him now. Then I realised that if they succeeded, he would look around and conclude that his work had been done.

CKhalvashi

http://www.libdemvoice.org/massive-lib-dem-swing-to-gain-sunderland-council-seat-from-labour-52954.html

Two more gains, one more council gain, both in majority Leave areas. Average 33% swing.

Fantastic news!

Ronaldo_Mconaldo

CKhalvashi wrote: »

http://www.libdemvoice.org/massive-lib-dem-swing-to-gain-sunderland-council-seat-from-labour-52954.html

Two more gains, one more council gain, both in majority Leave areas. Average 33% swing.

Fantastic news!

It'll all be for nothing soon. 2 months to go.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

CKhalvashi wrote: »

http://www.libdemvoice.org/massive-lib-dem-swing-to-gain-sunderland-council-seat-from-labour-52954.html

Two more gains, one more council gain, both in majority Leave areas. Average 33% swing.

Fantastic news!

For the LibDems it is undoubtedly good news, yes.
All it shows (in fairness) is just how far Labour have fallen.


If however you in some wild moment of madness see this as even remotely possible nationally were a GE to be announced at this moment in time you are, to be perfectly honest, delusional.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Further evidence (if any were needed) of the craziness that the EU has become:
A new ruling from the EU which takes effect in the UK from March will see car insurance prices go up again.
Why?
Because the EU thinks that damage to an uninsured driver's car should be paid for.

“It cannot be right that hardworking, law-abiding drivers will foot the bill for the irresponsible actions of those who decide to break the law and drive without insurance,” Grayling was quoted as saying by the Daily Mail.

http://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/uk/news/breaking-news/uninsured-drivers-to-get-compensation-under-new-eu-rule-42547.aspx

mayonnaise

Ronaldo_Mconaldo wrote: »

It'll all be for nothing soon. 2 months to go.

2 months to go... until what?

Herzlos

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Further evidence (if any were needed) of the craziness that the EU has become:
A new ruling from the EU which takes effect in the UK from March will see car insurance prices go up again.
Why?
Because the EU thinks that damage to an uninsured driver's car should be paid for.

http://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/uk/news/breaking-news/uninsured-drivers-to-get-compensation-under-new-eu-rule-42547.aspx

I'm torn on that one. If someone damages property, then they should be liable to restore it, whether it was insured or not. But then you don't want to be seen to reward uninsured drivers either.

Take 2 examples:
A. Someone has a SORN'd car on the drive, no insurance. Someone else runs off the road and writes it off. They'd get no compensation. If it was, say, a trailer or lawn mower, they would.
B. Someone has a fairly expensive car but due to an admin !!!!-up it's insurance has lapsed for a couple of hours, and someone runs in the back of it at a set of lights. They'd get nothing for it despite it not being their accident.

Now, B would still be committing an offense by driving uninsured, and should be dealt with as appropriate by the law. But the penalty should be determined by the law and not the insurance company.

I understand the point of this ruling was to deter people from driving uninsured as a matter of course, but there are already legal routes to deal with that which are far too lenient. Driving uninsured should require (when convicted and it's determined not to be an admin error) penalties that make having insurance preferable. It's too common for people to buy a £100 banger, let it get confiscated and pay a trivial fine, which still works out much cheaper than paying for insurance.