If we vote for Brexit what happens

CLAPTON

Herzlos wrote: »

That makes 3 enormous assumptions though:

1. That we'll not be paying any money into the EU.
2. That we'll have less regulations*
3. Trade to the EU is totally unaffected by loss of single market access

i.e. the traditional cake-and-eat-it brexit.


*I know the Tories want less business regulations, but we're still going to have to comply with most of the EU regulations in order to trade with them.

at the moment, all UK businesses have to comply with EU regulations whether or not they actually trade with them.

after leaving the EU, only businesses that trade with the EU or US or China or India or et al have to comply with the regulations of the importing countries.

wotsthat

CLAPTON wrote: »

at the moment, all UK businesses have to comply with EU regulations whether or not they actually trade with them.

after leaving the EU, only businesses that trade with the EU or US or China or India or et al have to comply with the regulations of the importing countries.

The other enormous assumption is that the UK government has a problem with EU regulation and is looking to implement very different UK regulation. Seems quite likely that post-Brexit the regulatory burden will look similar to now.

You might say EU regulations will only affect those businesses which trade with the EU in the future but that comes from a position where you're either trying to downplay (or simply don't understand) the profound impact that being demoted to a third country will have.

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

The other enormous assumption is that the UK government has a problem with EU regulation and is looking to implement very different UK regulation. Seems quite likely that post-Brexit the regulatory burden will look similar to now.

You might say EU regulations will only affect those businesses which trade with the EU in the future but that comes from a position where you're either trying to downplay (or simply don't understand) the profound impact that being demoted to a third country will have.

of course it is true that the stupid people of the UK will choose to double or treble our payment to EU coffers, to introduce more draconic regulations, to join the Euro, to bail out the Italian banking system, to send massive aid to Greece, to import 100 million refugees etc etc.

However these would be UK decisions and not imposed by the EU.

wotsthat

CLAPTON wrote: »

of course it is true that the stupid people of the UK will choose to double or treble our payment to EU coffers, to introduce more draconic regulations, to join the Euro, to bail out the Italian banking system, to send massive aid to Greece, to import 100 million refugees etc etc.

However these would be UK decisions and not imposed by the EU.

Only stupid people expect your list to be implemented in full whether by UK or EU regulation.

Not sure what it's got to do with my point(s) that, post-brexit, UK businesses aren't going to note much in the way of regulatory change and that you have very little idea about the practical differences between trading with the EU within the single market versus as a third country.

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

Only stupid people expect your list to be implemented in full whether by UK or EU regulation.

Not sure what it's got to do with my point(s) that, post-brexit, UK businesses aren't going to note much in the way of regulatory change and that you have very little idea about the practical differences between trading with the EU within the single market versus as a third country.

I understand that about 160 countries trade with the single market but note your concern there are many practicle differences between what they do and how well the people of Greece manage.

wotsthat

CLAPTON wrote: »

I understand that about 160 countries trade with the single market but note your concern there are many practicle differences between what they do and how well the people of Greece manage.

Reads like Gibberish so I'm unsure of the point you wished to make.

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

Reads like Gibberish so I'm unsure of the point you wished to make.

I was simply agreeing with you about of the enormous practical difficulties that the people of the 160 countries experience trading with the EU: and was contrasting these dificulties with the ease that countries like Greece enjoy.

Conrad

wotsthat wrote: »

you have very little idea about the practical differences between trading with the EU within the single market versus as a third country.

Can you let Microsoft and all the other non EU companies know they cannot easily trade in Europe.

Conrad

I see Mcdonalds is moving its HQ (tax vehicle), from Luexmbourg to the UK. Another Remaoner sucker punch

BobQ

gfplux wrote: »

More good news
"An Asda spokeswoman said: 'With the Christmas period upon us, it's encouraging to see that families are still seeing growth in their spending power each month'."

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-4073656/The-real-rate-inflation-Prices-essentials-soar-8-year-retail-experts-warn.html

I suppose if you define spending power in terms of the level of credit you can use, she might be right.