If we vote for Brexit what happens

Moby

CLAPTON wrote: »

your bigotry is getting rather tiresome.

I've explained that I think a stable population sizes best meets the needs of the UK :
ok you are too cowardly to say many hyndreds of millions you want to live here.

My bigotry:eek:. You are the one going on about culturally similar this and that. Do you subscribe to Enoch Powells view re. Asian and West Indian immigration to this country in the 60's? That immigation comprised of people more culturally dissimilar to us that immigration from Eastern Europe! In any event do you seriously believe that leaving the EU will result in a stable population? I don't make any predictions about numbers living here because that's a fools game. If we controlled our borders properly, if we hadn't sacked loads of immigration staff due to cutbacks, if we counted the numbers of people coming in and going out, if we properly enforced deportation of criminals etc etc......... we may impact on the population level. Being in the EU does not stop us doing those things. We are not in Schengen! The EU has been used as a scapegoat for problems that have other causes!

CLAPTON

Moby wrote: »

My bigotry:eek:. You are the one going on about culturally similar this and that. Do you subscribe to Enoch Powells view re. Asian and West Indian immigration to this country in the 60's? That immigation comprised of people more culturally dissimilar to us that immigration from Eastern Europe! In any event do you seriously believe that leaving the EU will result in a stable population? I don't make any predictions about numbers living here because that's a fools game. If we controlled our borders properly, if we hadn't sacked loads of immigration staff due to cutbacks, if we counted the numbers of people coming in and going out, if we properly enforced deportation of criminals etc etc......... we may impact on the population level. Being in the EU does not stop us doing those things. We are not in Schengen! The EU has been used as a scapegoat for problems that have other causes!

its really a simple question

how many 100s of million of immigrants would you find
acceptable


Schengen has no bearing on free movement of EU citizens : all 500 million are entitled by law to come here
how many would be too many?

mayonnaise

Town That Voted For Brexit Loses 99 Jobs Because Of Brexit

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-38328388

Oh well. At least they took back control.

CLAPTON

mayonnaise wrote: »

Town That Voted For Brexit Loses 99 Jobs Because Of Brexit

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-38328388

Oh well. At least they took back control.

I trust you will post every time a new job is created........ you missed quite a few today

Herzlos

CLAPTON wrote: »

I trust you will post every time a new job is created........ you missed quite a few today

Go on and post a job that was created because of Brexit, that isn't related purely to the admin/negotiation of Brexit itself.

Unfortunately, I know of a few similar businesses that are starting to struggle because of a huge reliance on EU sourced ingredients.

CLAPTON

Herzlos wrote: »

Go on and post a job that was created because of Brexit, that isn't related purely to the admin/negotiation of Brexit itself.

Unfortunately, I know of a few similar businesses that are starting to struggle because of a huge reliance on EU sourced ingredients.

export jobs are being created due to the more competitve price of our products

Herzlos

CLAPTON wrote: »

export jobs are being created due to the more competitve price of our products

Name me one.

Conrad

Herzlos wrote: »

Unfortunately, I know of a few similar businesses that are starting to struggle because of a huge reliance on EU sourced ingredients.[/QUOTE]




Good, this is exactly what the trade deficit requires. The evidence from other modern de-valuations points to a big shift to domestic production and sourcing.


Importing cheap stuff and selling to one another adds to our debt, we must reduce reliance on imports


Tell your friend to start making the stuff they need or find someone that will. They will say they cannot, well fine, go bust then - we need to reduce imports


I've had hard times when markets changed, tough, its the way it is. Brexit always was in part about innovation for me

CLAPTON

Herzlos wrote: »

Name me one.

exports have increased, probably due to the fall in the pound although other factors will play a part. That would have increased emplyment in th affected areas.
You can reference the ONS data at your leaisure and then research the specific industries concerned

anyway the loss of 99 jobs is negligible and is good to know they are the only jobs losses due to brexit.

CKhalvashi

CLAPTON wrote: »

its really a simple question

how many 100s of million of immigrants would you find
acceptable


Schengen has no bearing on free movement of EU citizens : all 500 million are entitled by law to come here
how many would be too many?

But all 500 million wouldn't come though, would they?

Most Romanians I know that have moved (the majority have stayed put) have gone to Italy/Austria/Switzerland, I don't know many Bulgarians but those that have moved have gone to either Germany or The Netherlands (former for work, latter for study of about 5 people). I've chosen these nationalities as I know they're the ones you're going to pick up on.

The point though, is why when the people in question have a good life there, would they choose immediately to come to the UK now? Yes it's possible, but still improbable.