If we vote for Brexit what happens

Herzlos

Clapton: Are you only against new migrants?

If so, how long do they need to be here to count as UK citizens? Do they need to be born here?

Rinoa wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4033920/Britain-s-migration-rules-NOT-Brexit-negotiations-Europe-set-entirely-UK-David-Davis-tells-MPs.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

He's right, unfortunately it's the other way round. FoM will be non-negotiable; Europe won't back down on it so we'll be having it, warts and all.

Otherwise there's not going to be any jobs or benefits to steal.

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

What's the difference between 'discriminating' against non-Europeans and discriminating against non native born Brits?

It's odd that you see one as racism but the other as pragmatism.

In a fair world we would all have the same income and the same standard of living and the same opportunities. I guess we would all share the same wars and intolences too.

As a purely pragmatic view, I wish to maintain broadly my standard of living and those of my family, friends and countrypeople.
I wish to do this without regard to race, ethnic origin, sexual orientation etc.

Now many people 'in principle' believe lots of things but don't actual live their principles.

Unlimited immigration into the UK would make us all poorer : I don't wish to be poor because of your faux 'principles'.

Discriminating by way of trade etc is un-necessary and keeps developing countries poor without any advantage to you : so why do you approve of it.

CKhalvashi

CLAPTON wrote: »

Discriminating by way of trade etc is un-necessary and keeps developing countries poor without any advantage to you : so why do you approve of it.

Ah, but is Priti Patel not talking about investing the foreign aid budget into the developing world, thus incresing productivity in these countries and earning the government a nice profit in the process?

Or did you conveniently forget about that?

mayonnaise

Lloyd’s of London to establish EU base in the new year

Lloyd’s of London has become one of the first major City businesses to put a timetable on plans to move a part of its operations to the EU in preparation for Brexit

Lloyd’s preferred option remains to keep its European operations concentrated in London. It is possible that the market might shelve its relocation plans if a “no change” deal is struck between the EU and London allowing British financial businesses to trade freely through the single market.

https://www.ft.com/content/a3d0eff4-c224-11e6-81c2-f57d90f6741a

Looks like Lloyd's are not waiting around for Theresa's Red, White and Blue Brexit.

CKhalvashi

mayonnaise wrote: »

Lloyd’s of London to establish EU base in the new year

This is a sign to any Remain voter that stuff is getting serious.

The Brexiteers won't care though, sadly

ruggedtoast

Its just too late for this. The world has moved on. The UK leaving Europe is as viable as Michigan leaving the USA.

CLAPTON

CKhalvashi wrote: »

Ah, but is Priti Patel not talking about investing the foreign aid budget into the developing world, thus incresing productivity in these countries and earning the government a nice profit in the process?

Or did you conveniently forget about that?

I have no idea what you are talking about or what relevance it has to business people in the Uk trading with business people in non EU countries

Tromking

mayonnaise wrote: »

Lloyd’s of London to establish EU base in the new year




https://www.ft.com/content/a3d0eff4-c224-11e6-81c2-f57d90f6741a

Looks like Lloyd's are not waiting around for Theresa's Red, White and Blue Brexit.

Lol!
The self flaggellating pleasure the Remainer Retards get from announcements of this kind is a joy to behold. Never were so many probably never to be realised satellite offices celebrated so keenly!:)

CKhalvashi

CLAPTON wrote: »

I have no idea what you are talking about or what relevance it has to business people in the Uk trading with business people in non EU countries

You mentioned keeping developing countries poor, I stated how the government is planning to offset this partly.

We can trade with businesspeople in non-EU countries now. Germany does it a lot more than we do, and is still an EU member, so I don't get what your point is regarding needing to be outside of the EU to do so.

Moby

We have years of this grief to look forward to!:mad:
It would have so much simpler..... a vote to remain but with a commitment to reform....that would have been the most sensible outcome surely. Moderate, reform.....instead we are embarked on a completely uncertain future!


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/15/eu-politicians-believe-trade-deal-could-take-decade-no-10-is-warned

Europe’s politicians believe a trade deal with the UK could take up to a decade or more and could still fail in the final stages, Downing Street has been warned by the UK’s ambassador to the EU.
Sir Ivan Rogers, who conducted David Cameron’s renegotiation with the EU prior to the referendum, is reported to have told Theresa May that European politicians expected that a deal would not be finalised until the early to mid-2020s, according to the BBC. That deal could still be rejected by any of the 27 national parliaments during the ratification process.
It is understood Rogers was reporting back conversations he had had with European politicians, rather than giving his own advice to the British government.