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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    Herzlos wrote: »
    Show of confidence in the UK, or confidence that it'll manage to get a good tax deal from a country that's keep to please companies to get them to stay after the EU split?

    There's something to be said about moving to a country which is outside of the EU's fair taxation laws though. None of it benefits the UK itself unless people have shares in mcdonalds.

    Are you seriously trying to spin this as bad?
  • Moby
    Moby Posts: 3,917 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    You can't argue that there should be more races in the UK with someone who only wants to see one.

    Of course freedom of movement is good, who wouldn't want freedom to move? What would happen to the UK if people from Essex couldn't commute to London and steal Londoners' jobs.

    Sadly there is a subset of people whose lives encompass the street they grew up in which they will never leave, the school they went to which must provide an identical experience for their children as it did for them, and the factory / office down the road they believe they have a god given right to work in.

    It is these persons, these Brexiteers, who are trembling with excitement as they believe their parochialism has been vindicated in a loosely worded referendum.

    These Claptons, et al, are waving their Charles and Diana tea towels, polishing their commemorative biscuit tins, and marching down the road with their plastic union jack hats held on with elastic, in the belief that they have defeated the metropolitan elite.

    They must be stopped.
    :rotfl:
    Must be in contention for best post of the year award!
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    Moby wrote: »
    :rotfl:
    Must be in contention for best post of the year award!

    Bigots will bigot.
  • Moby
    Moby Posts: 3,917 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    setmefree2 wrote: »
    It means that this is the first stepping stone. However, once outside the EU the UK would be free to pursue whatever tariff model it wants. Changes will be implemented reasonably rapidly and we will be free to negotiate FTAs.

    I have no idea why Dunt is foaming at the mouth over that - it is perfectly logical. Also I have no idea why it is "news" - it suggests to me that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
    Setmefree.....doesn't it bother you that we've got years of this to look forward to? Our tariff model will depend on our negotiations with many countries. He's saying WTO rules are a morass if we change anything from what we have now in the EU. Politicians present it as a simple change.....he's saying it isn't!
  • Masomnia
    Masomnia Posts: 19,506 Forumite
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    Are you seriously trying to spin this as bad?

    There are plenty on the remain side who will dismiss any good news as bad now that we're leaving. Especially in a case like this where the move is explicitly due to burdensome EU regulation.

    From the article they paid $2.5bn in taxes in the EU over five years. I'm perfectly happy for them to pay a bit less and pay it here.

    I'm also quite happy for the EU and US to continue their little !!!!ing contest, as it looks like we're well positioned to benefit.
    “I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled.” - P.G. Wodehouse
  • Moby
    Moby Posts: 3,917 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Bigots will bigot.
    Come on Tricky don't be such an uptight bore.....agree or not with the content it was a cracking post!
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    Moby wrote: »
    Come on Tricky don't be such an uptight bore.....agree or not with the content it was a cracking post!

    Belittling peoples opinions because they don't align with RT's?
  • Moby
    Moby Posts: 3,917 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    This article puts a grimy patina of reality over the gaudy glass bauble of the Brexiteer's hopes for free trade with everyone:

    http://www.ictsd.org/opinion/nothing-simple-about-uk-regaining-wto-status-post-brexit



    In summary, in order to rejoin the WTO the other 160 odd countries will have to agree. One of which is Argentina. Well I can think if something we could give them that would convince them to wave us through but I don't think it would go down very well the the Top Gear and Winston Churchill brigade.

    And before you Rightists all start ranting that we are already part of the WTO as part of our EU membership so will remain so, every single one of you has been arguing til blue in the face that Scotland will be kicked out of every UK specific treaty the moment it secedes from the Union.
    Fits in with my post above. Stop nicking my points....I was there first;)
  • Moby
    Moby Posts: 3,917 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Belittling peoples opinions because they don't align with RT's?
    It was how he did it though:)
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    CKhalvashi wrote: »
    Don't quote paragraphs 2, 3 or 4 below or discuss in detail, as they will disappear later for privacy reasons.

    Have you considered that bringing in visa restrictions for jobs to EU nationals would disadvantage Brits even more though in some circumstances?

    [Removed personal info, that as stated above was only here temporarily.]

    At least with EEA workers being available, everyone has the same chance to start at the bottom and work up generally, where without the EU this won't be as practical in the real world, despite what the theory might be.

    maybe your editing has changed the meaning, but I don't really understand the point
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